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    Default AI Formations DL-File For ChivTW

    Post/File-Link updated. Alpaca gave the complete file free

    Warning (EDIT: militiaman): Downloading this may result in MP compatibility problems. If you do download it be sure to remember that you have it to avoid confusion. To revert to the old formations simply delete the file.
    Hint (EDIT/DaVinci): Please see also post 31 (militiaman) and 32 (DaVinci) regarding this MP theme. Just make sure, that all human players have the same file-structure in their directory for the MP mode, then this, or other files won't make any problems.

    This is AI Formations for ChivTW v1.0 and will probably also content in the next ChivTW patch (work in progress though, but no ctd's will be caused from this file, so far it is tested).

    Link Removed, is now content of Chiv 0.44.

    This is short tested with my current campaign/s as England and Byzantine. As well Boudicca and alpaca have tested this file.

    Have fun with a harder and different/more interesting (cos faction/culture specific) battle-experience.

    Click on the link above to see the Readme first for more info.
    Last edited by DaVinci; August 02, 2006 at 07:06 PM.
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    my hero... if you could even convince the mighty Darth to join us out here...that would be so great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boudicca
    my hero... if you could even convince the mighty Darth to join us out here...that would be so great.
    Well, i also contacted him today before i decided to do a first stab file, and i asked him if he will have the time. See also my Readme comment regarding this. So perhaps my Formations AI file is for the meantime, if the Chiv Team wants it still, that i do something
    Otherwise you are free to remove this thread and the link anyway.
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    Well it's ok, but I regard this as a submod because you actually change a chivalry file (since the mod folder falls back to the vanilla formation file). I won't remove the thread, I just wanted to make it clear that I'm going to enforce our license

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    Quote Originally Posted by alpaca
    Well it's ok, but I regard this as a submod because you actually change a chivalry file (since the mod folder falls back to the vanilla formation file). I won't remove the thread, I just wanted to make it clear that I'm going to enforce our license
    Sorry alpaca, but in this case you are actually on the wrong way :wink:

    Why?

    - No ChivTW stuff has an alternation through my Formations AI file.
    - ChivTW still hasn't a Formations AI file on board in the exe-setup.

    But however, let us work proper and friendly together is my suggestion, just to make ChivTW's design better, so that the fans will have real successive improvments
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    Sorry DaVinci, but did you read our submod policy?
    Please do that (you can find it in the readme), and in the future send the files to me before making them public to see if our team approves of it. Sorry for the inconvenience (and I'm aware that you'd very much like to release this asap) but this is a necessary step.
    I'll tolerate it for now and treat this as an approved submod because the system hasn't long been in place yet, but I might not be so kind in the future.

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    Yes...you should really send your files to the team first. I thought you had done so...still a nice work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alpaca
    Sorry DaVinci, but did you read our submod policy?
    Please do that (you can find it in the readme), and in the future send the files to me before making them public to see if our team approves of it. Sorry for the inconvenience (and I'm aware that you'd very much like to release this asap) but this is a necessary step.
    I'll tolerate it for now, but I won't in the future.
    Oh sorry, didn't expect such a harsh warning shield
    And i read your policy short, that's anyway a usual way, i would never provide a real submod without any permission, for sure.

    And actually, in the Readme i provided "Use this only on your danger". As well, this isn't a submod, in my view at least, 'cause i modified Darth Vader's file so that it fits and will fit to the ChivTW data, i didn't change any ChivTW data.

    I really did this, 'cause i like to play ChivTW soon with a quite better AI and thought why not providing such stuff for the fans asap here, 'cause many asked after an AI Formations file
    People can use it for now or not, it's not in your responsibility, that's really my view to your comment above, but you guys are the chiefs here, so sorry again for "went alone thing" .

    But however, to come here to a calmed and nice agreement, i will send all new files to you first, no problem at all
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    Have you found any bugs while testing this? Because I really want to try this out


    Edt: I'm kind of confused as to were to put this. I assume you put it in chivalry/data, correct? But it doesn't overwrite anything, and that's kind of strange. I'm going to test it soon, so.....
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    Yes it doesn't overwrite anything because no formations file is included in chivalry.

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    Ah, because whenever I look on the battle UI, it has darth's formation buttons on there

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    First post updated
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    Quote Originally Posted by therussian
    Ah, because whenever I look on the battle UI, it has darth's formation buttons on there
    Please note:

    - AI Formations will not appear as viewable on your ui/checkerboard.
    - AI Formations file steers the AI behaviour in the battle-mode.

    Bold: Obviously you think this file is the Player's Formations file?
    Well, i saw none in the ChivTW data, neither a Formations AI nor a Player's Formations file.

    To your question above regarding bugs: The current file shouldn't have any bugs.
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    Default Re: AI Formations file for ChivTW

    Short Info

    The whole file "AI Formations for ChivTW v1.0" is finished :original:

    Specific AI Formations (battle behaviour) for all the Christian factions, Golden Horde, Turks, Almohads, Egypt and Byzantians, plus Rebels/"Independant Factions".

    Expect a soon release. I sent already the file first to alpaca.
    He will give me his sign if it is okay for the release in this forum.

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    Thank you, I cant stand the reg formations.

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    I am almost certain that this will alter MP battles in some way, so I will put a large warning in the first post for now about that. I don't think it'll make it incompatible but I get the feeling it may upset things once you're playing. Please correct me if I'm wrong though.

    If it's good enough (need to test it) then there'll be no need for this sub-mod stuff and we should have it in the next patch (with all necessary credits of course ).

    And thanks for doing it btw :original:

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    Default Re: AI Formations DL-File For ChivTW

    will this make my game have different data from other human players online?

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    Adherbal told me it would cause out of syncs. I didn't actually test it, but I trust him when he says he tested it
    So, if you want to play multiplayer, don't use this, or install two versions of chivalry that you can switch around (renaming the mod folder does the trick).

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    Probably yes

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    Or just moving the file out whenever you want to play MP.....

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