What is the best faction to do this and also if you can explain why.
I saw it somewhere on the forum before that someone moved whole Sicily to the Holy land but I was thinking more about France ( because of the cavalry) or Russia maybe
Best faction to emigrate to the Holy Land
What is the best faction to do this and also if you can explain why.
I saw it somewhere on the forum before that someone moved whole Sicily to the Holy land but I was thinking more about France ( because of the cavalry) or Russia maybe
Senator
Re: Best faction to emigrate to the Holy Land
I actually transferred Denmark to the Holy Land once, just for contrast. One of the hardest campaigns I've fought, simply because of the mismatch between my infantry and their cavalry. But sieges were easy as pie!
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Miles
Re: Best faction to emigrate to the Holy Land
The ideal would be a faction that had some reliable infantry and good cavalry (both melee and ranged would be the ideal). Russia i don't know, they have a good cavalry to counter the Turks and future Mongols, but their early infantry is a crap.Originally Posted by Noble Zweihander
What is the best faction to do this and also if you can explain why.
I saw it somewhere on the forum before that someone moved whole Sicily to the Holy land but I was thinking more about France ( because of the cavalry) or Russia maybe
I'd suggest Hungary. They get some awesome western-based infantry and heavy cavalry to face the Egyptians, and good missile cavalry to keep the Turks and Mongols at bay. Perhaps Poland would also fulfill this criteria, but i really dislike their infantry. France and the other good-cavalry western nations aren't bad for itself, but my concern is that they only get ranged cavalry in the later phases of the game, when you'll probably need them to counter the Turks as soon as you emigrate, perhaps if you instead of using ranged cavalry you spam light ones, such as mounted sergeants, etc
Mikhail
Re: Best faction to emigrate to the Holy Land
Hungary sounds pretty fine for this job because it has a good mix of west and east. Also Poland is possible but their infantry....
Denmark sounds fun btw because it is really I mismatch. England can be easy with the longbowmen imo...
What about the Italian factions, I think Milan or Sicily can be nice and also HRE??
Mikhail
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Venice is also a good option, I think I am going to try them!
Centenarius
Re: Best faction to emigrate to the Holy Land
The most fun is probably.
Sicily , Portugal or Spain , and England.
Sicily -- the geographic location makes it easiest - just hop on some boats an you're there soon. They have muslim archers which will really help lay down the fire on the muslim(s) light infantry and horse archers.
After they have both pavise xbow men, and pavise xbow militia -- great heavy infantry -- the amazing ITalian militias which will be invaluable with all those mid-eastern city settlements. Norman Knights look awesome and they're so good that they can handle pretty much anything in teh game -- and they have the 'look' of a crusader, their uniforms etc.
Portugal/Spain -- the jinnettes , later on the swordsmen militia for cities, some of the javelin foot troops - that can be very very fun fighting sieges / defending...they both get pavise xbows later on, plus great Pike units which will help defending cities or fighting bridge battles etc.
England -- Longbows, armor swords, interesting cav options -- hobilars are weak but very fast so they can catch enemy H.A. - then your axe wielding English Knights can pull up in the rear and devastate.
all those longbow troops, forget stakes - they can lay down so many arrows vs those eastern factions you don't have to worry as much to actually chase their Cav down just shoot em =)
Re: Best faction to emigrate to the Holy Land
My personal option is Scotland. Border horses are faster then England's Hobilars (they are tied with some others as the fastest unit in the game, and they are the fastest melee unit available) and their offensive based infantry makes for a rather different play style when trying to fight the HA armies of the eastern factions. It makes the basic hammer-and-anvil tactic useless, so you actually have to think and plan your battles
Ducenarius
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Are there really several speed levels for cav? I thought there were only two: normal + fast (fast being displayed as a special ability).
Semisalis
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I think they are slightly faster plus there lighter so if i remember correctly they tire more slowly.
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Re: Best faction to emigrate to the Holy Land
Speed it's self is based on the skeleton, vanilla has 3 skeletons for horses, fs_horse, fs_fast_horse and fs_heavy_horse. That decides the base, starting speed for the horse. The fast pony is the only one that uses fs_fast_horse, pony and heavy horse use fs_horse and the rest use fs_heavy_horse. To see what horse a unit has (if you cant tell by looking at it) you can look it up in the EDU.
There are 2 (maybe 3 factors) that decide how quickly a unit get's fatigued. stat_heat and whether the unit has the hardy or very_hardy attribute, both of these can be seen in the EDU.
I think (note think, this is not deffinitive,) that mass also effects fatigue, mass is in desc_mount. The main reason I think this is because, as was stated previously, hobilars are fast, but if mass dose not have an effect then they should not be any faster then mounted sergeants, however experiance says they are, especially in the long run (though I could be wrong and it just seems that way.) Hobilar's have pony(mass 1.25) and mounted sergeants have heavy horse (mass 1.75) which both use the same skeleton, and stat_heat is the same so, if mass dose not matter, they should be the same speed and tire at the same rate. I have actually raced them, they are the same speed when 'fresh' or 'warmed up' but I am not sure if one tires more quickly then the other, however in playing the game it dose seem as though the hobilar is faster.
The reason Hobilar's can 'catch' HA is because the HA generally run around alot more before the hobilar begins persuit, so they are already tired and the hobilars are still fresh, and not too much slower to begin with.
Domesticus
Re: Best faction to emigrate to the Holy Land
I once took the Scots there and, by God, that was a remarkable contrast. It looked...wrong and after playing a few more turns I decided to give up on it.
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