Song of Ice and Fire Future

I've read that apparently there's going to be 7 total books in the series (currently, but could expand). With Winds of Winter and Dream of Spring being the 6th and 7th.

Do you think there will be a prequel series? I thought a nice prequel series would
consist of major events such as
Book 1: "The Dragon King", explaining the Doom of Valyria, and the initial move to Dragonstone by the Targaryen family. Detailing basically Aegon the Conquerer and his conquest of Westeros.
Book 2: "The Mad King", detailing rule under Aerys II, all the way (including the baratheon rebellion) to when he is finally deposed and killed.
Book 3: "The New King", detailing the 15 years leading upto Robert's death.

Maybe a side book on the Greyjoy rebellion, or include it in the 3rd book.

Ugh...this is the fourth (?) thread talking about the TV and/or book series. I keep fearing I'm gonna accidentally catch some spoilers.

Originally Posted by Gen. Chris

Ugh...this is the fourth (?) thread talking about the TV and/or book series. I keep fearing I'm gonna accidentally catch some spoilers.

None of this topic will ruin the books/tv series for you. This is just about prequel referring to the origins of where the book series is currently at. Which could mean endless prequels they could cover any time period or area of the ASOIAF world.

Originally Posted by Påsan

I think we should count us lucky if he ever finish ASoIaF.

I would assume now he's going to for several reasons;
1. Larger fan base, he won't want to lose in terms of sales/etc. So he will make haste as much as an author can I suppose to get the books out. Meaning he wont take 5 years like he did from Storm of Swords (2000) to Feast of Crows (2005), and 6 years, from Feast of Crows (2005) to Dance of Dragons (2011).

2. In order for the series to succeed (by which I have read he makes US$400,000/episode for the 1st Season for rights), if the seasons are to run concurrently each year, he will need both novels (#6 Winds of Winter) and (#7 Dream of Spring) completed within next few years. Now I wouldn't be sacrificing what he's going to make off the Show rights/Merchandise sales to just stop his series cold. I think he realizes what he has created since the launch of GoT on HBO, he'd be throwing away potential millions if he botched it all up.

Basically, he now has the fanbase I'm sure he's always dreamt of, the money coming in that means he'll never have to design a new series, or anything (as in the fact he can just do as many prequels or side stories as he wants related to the ASOIAF Legendarium. It could be endless, like LOTR and Star Wars for 2 examples.

Originally Posted by http://www.buzzbox.com/news/2011-07-29/game-of-thrones:hbo/?clusterId=4596454

HBO swears it won't cancel Game of Thrones, that Game of Thrones will not see a similar fate to Deadwood, and that they are "very aware of and respectful of" the relationship fans have to the series. "We told George [R.R. Martin] we'd go as long as he kept writing," HBO co-president Richard Pleper said at a TCA panel yesterday. "I can promise you that we won't stop it before it's ready to stop," agreed Michael Lombardo, HBO's programming president.

http://www.buzzbox.com/news/2011-07-...sterId=4596454

Originally Posted by Jesse James

None of this topic will ruin the books/tv series for you. This is just about prequel referring to the origins of where the book series is currently at. Which could mean endless prequels they could cover any time period or area of the ASOIAF world.



I would assume now he's going to for several reasons;
1. Larger fan base, he won't want to lose in terms of sales/etc. So he will make haste as much as an author can I suppose to get the books out. Meaning he wont take 5 years like he did from Storm of Swords (2000) to Feast of Crows (2005), and 6 years, from Feast of Crows (2005) to Dance of Dragons (2011).

2. In order for the series to succeed (by which I have read he makes US$400,000/episode for the 1st Season for rights), if the seasons are to run concurrently each year, he will need both novels (#6 Winds of Winter) and (#7 Dream of Spring) completed within next few years. Now I wouldn't be sacrificing what he's going to make off the Show rights/Merchandise sales to just stop his series cold. I think he realizes what he has created since the launch of GoT on HBO, he'd be throwing away potential millions if he botched it all up.

Basically, he now has the fanbase I'm sure he's always dreamt of, the money coming in that means he'll never have to design a new series, or anything (as in the fact he can just do as many prequels or side stories as he wants related to the ASOIAF Legendarium. It could be endless, like LOTR and Star Wars for 2 examples.

http://www.buzzbox.com/news/2011-07-...sterId=4596454

I think the worry isn't that he's gonna stop ASOIAF to move onto something else, but rather that he is going to die before finishing, or perhaps end up retiring if he feels he is too old to continue. Also, don't forget that he won't necessarily speed up his writing for HBO-he may not gauge success by that or necessarily feel bound by the show, and may continue on his regular pace. That would screw up the show's schedule, but if GRRM feels he can't finish in that time, he probably wouldn't rush himself for it.

Originally Posted by Jesse James

I've read that apparently there's going to be 7 total books in the series (currently, but could expand). With Winds of Winter and Dream of Spring being the 6th and 7th.

Do you think there will be a prequel series? I thought a nice prequel series would
consist of major events such as
Book 1: "The Dragon King", explaining the Doom of Valyria, and the initial move to Dragonstone by the Targaryen family. Detailing basically Aegon the Conquerer and his conquest of Westeros.
Book 2: "The Mad King", detailing rule under Aerys II, all the way (including the baratheon rebellion) to when he is finally deposed and killed.
Book 3: "The New King", detailing the 15 years leading upto Robert's death.

Maybe a side book on the Greyjoy rebellion, or include it in the 3rd book.

I think we should count us lucky if he ever finish ASoIaF.

Let's just hope he finishes ASOIAF...personally I am VERY anxious about that.

When he finishes the main series, I want a trilogy or whatever so bad about the First Blackfyre Rebellion. Love that story.

I'm sure he'll write more stuff. He created a far too sucessful universe to simply end it when ASOIAF ends.

I would assume now he's going to for several reasons;
1. Larger fan base, he won't want to lose in terms of sales/etc. So he will make haste as much as an author can I suppose to get the books out. Meaning he wont take 5 years like he did from Storm of Swords (2000) to Feast of Crows (2005), and 6 years, from Feast of Crows (2005) to Dance of Dragons (2011).

2. In order for the series to succeed (by which I have read he makes US$400,000/episode for the 1st Season for rights), if the seasons are to run concurrently each year, he will need both novels (#6 Winds of Winter) and (#7 Dream of Spring) completed within next few years. Now I wouldn't be sacrificing what he's going to make off the Show rights/Merchandise sales to just stop his series cold. I think he realizes what he has created since the launch of GoT on HBO, he'd be throwing away potential millions if he botched it all up.

Basically, he now has the fanbase I'm sure he's always dreamt of, the money coming in that means he'll never have to design a new series, or anything (as in the fact he can just do as many prequels or side stories as he wants related to the ASOIAF Legendarium. It could be endless, like LOTR and Star Wars for 2 examples.

Yea, he's surely going to finish ASOIAF since he's on the 5th book already. But, umm, what about his advanced age? I think that's what the other guy meant. It took like 5 years for him to finish the last two books, and he's pretty old already.

Originally Posted by Jesse James

I've read that apparently there's going to be 7 total books in the series (currently, but could expand). With Winds of Winter and Dream of Spring being the 6th and 7th.

Do you think there will be a prequel series? I thought a nice prequel series would
consist of major events such as
Book 1: "The Dragon King", explaining the Doom of Valyria, and the initial move to Dragonstone by the Targaryen family. Detailing basically Aegon the Conquerer and his conquest of Westeros.
Book 2: "The Mad King", detailing rule under Aerys II, all the way (including the baratheon rebellion) to when he is finally deposed and killed.
Book 3: "The New King", detailing the 15 years leading upto Robert's death.

Maybe a side book on the Greyjoy rebellion, or include it in the 3rd book.

I don't know if you know but there already is a kind of prequal series, called Dunk and Egg. At the moment I beleive 4 short stories have been published about them, very interesting. It is set a few years after the Blackfyre rebellion and in the high days of Bloodraven(thousand and 1 eyes )

The third novel/book might be split into 2 seasons. Same with a Dance for Dragons... so there could in the end be around 10 seasons or more. He could theoretically take 6 years to write Winds of Winter which could itself be split into 2 seasons. I think though it is pretty certain one of the books preceding a Dance with Dragons to be split into 2 seasons.

Regarding the OP book ideas... the Mad king and the rebellion could stretch for several books. Same with Valryia. Then you can have another series about the Iron Island wars after Robert took the throne. The only twists we might get from these could be the relationship between Lyanna Stark and Rhaegar.

Depending on How Song of ice and fire ends he could very well start another series after this in the same universe, basically continuing this series.

Considering how boring the third and fourth books are, I hope they keep them in one season and just trim down the boring parts.

Boring? Third book? You have to be joking, I'm 200+ pages into the 3rd book and I already think it's the best book I've ever read. Certainly alot more interesting than Clash of Kings.

Originally Posted by Rainbow Dash

Boring? Third book? You have to be joking, I'm 200+ pages into the 3rd book and I already think it's the best book I've ever read. Certainly alot more interesting than Clash of Kings.

Sorry, mixed up a bit, it was only the fourth book that was incredibly boring, and only parts of the third.

Originally Posted by Påsan

Sorry, mixed up a bit, it was only the fourth book that was incredibly boring, and only parts of the third.

Even the fourth was good, it just didn't have the same amount of action as the third.

Originally Posted by Emperor Zach

Even the fourth was good, it just didn't have the same amount of action as the third.

Even the Brienne chapters?

Originally Posted by Timur Amir

Even the Brienne chapters?

They were better than the Samwell chapters

If I thought they were boring I wouldnt have kept reading the series.

He'll prob take a year break just to with us.

Well being I haven't read past the first book yet, not sure if this will come to pass in the series anyway, but I'd love some kind of book of searching out the history and fate of Valyria more. Really I think he should just go for little sidetrack books and not full important stories, for reasons Tolkien said he didn't really want to do the Silmarillion, it ruins the sense of the distant and forgotten past if he were to make books set way back or anything like during the Andal invasion or the long winter. But some random story about some war or soemsuch thing could be cool.

Originally Posted by Ulyaoth

Well being I haven't read past the first book yet, not sure if this will come to pass in the series anyway, but I'd love some kind of book of searching out the history and fate of Valyria more. Really I think he should just go for little sidetrack books and not full important stories, for reasons Tolkien said he didn't really want to do the Silmarillion, it ruins the sense of the distant and forgotten past if he were to make books set way back or anything like during the Andal invasion or the long winter. But some random story about some war or soemsuch thing could be cool.

I dont think it ruins the history at all. Those events were so long ago that they can be complete series almost. Andal invasion sounds cool.