$130 processor performs better than $1000 ones

[sunsmountain]

http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/05/..._41_ghz_cores/

Pentium D 805, dual core 2,66 GHz with a FSB of 133 MHz. If you overclock the FSB to 200 MHz (easy) you get a dual core at 4,0 GHz, for which you would normally have to pay a premium.

Plus, it's dual core, so easier multitasking as an added bonus and insult to injury. This will hurt AMD bad i'm afraid... enthusiasts will go to Intel now...

[Timmius]

AMD was bound to get hurt anyway because of conroe.

[Lee1026]

Might as well as understand what the bloody hell you are talking about. Overclocking is far from something that always works. Especially when we are talking about overclocking from 133 MHZ FSB to 200 MHZ FSB. And you can overclock AMD chips too, you know.

[Darkragnar]

Nice article,
reped you for shareing this.

Might as well as understand what the bloody hell you are talking about. Overclocking is far from something that always works. Especially when we are talking about overclocking from 133 MHZ FSB to 200 MHZ FSB. And you can overclock AMD chips too, you know.

but not with a 20X multiplyer u cant

[Lee1026]

The multipler doesn't matter much. Most motherboards can get to 300 MHZ with out a problem. Mine can get up tp 340 MHZ. Do the math. With a low multipler of 10, that is 3.4 GHZ, which is more then good enough.

[DougyM]

Show me some official charts showcasing FPS.

Otherwise... its conjecture thats very influenced by fanboyism.

Personaly im an Intel man..... but come autumn (mtw2, bf2142 etc...) im building my own comp.

Looking to spend a lot of money.

[Darkragnar]

Show me some official charts showcasing FPS.

Otherwise... its conjecture thats very influenced by fanboyism.

Personaly im an Intel man..... but come autumn (mtw2, bf2142 etc...) im building my own comp.

Looking to spend a lot of money.

You wanted FPS and Vola!.





and these arnt the only ones there are about 20-25 more conducted useing diffrent things like multitasking,sandra SR2 etc...

[Darkragnar]

so with a multiplyer of 20 , you can turn a 2.6 Gz Processor into a 4.1 Gz.
thats the whole magik about it.

[Lee1026]

You are still missing the point - FSBs up to 380, 400 do exist. The FSB is EASY to crank up. The hard part is getting the CPU to stay stable at high speeds.

[sombralux]

Hope nobody tries this with stock coolers

[Darkragnar]

Ya but maintining the FSB at 380,480Mhz is not practical.

thats where the Pentium D805 comes into play with the 20X multipler you dont need to crank the FSB that high just 205 MHz is sufficent.

look at this chart.
Pentium D 805 with 20x Multiplier
FSB clock CPU clock
133 MHz (Default rate) 2.66 GHz
140 MHz 2.80 GHz
150 MHz 3.00 GHz
160 MHz 3.20 GHz
166 MHz 3.33 GHz
170 MHz 3.40 GHz
180 MHz 3.60 GHz
190 MHz 3.80 GHz
200 MHz 4.00 GHz
205 MHz 4.10 GHz
210 MHz (THG clock) 4.20 GHz
215 MHz (Maximum boot clock) 4.30 GHz

and another thing Cranking the FSB to 133-166 MHz donst effect the Standard Voltage Levels either in an D805(1.3375 V) with both Cores loaded

166Mhz = 3.33 Ghz.

[Richard the Lionheart]

http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/05/..._41_ghz_cores/

Pentium D 805, dual core 2,66 GHz with a FSB of 133 MHz. If you overclock the FSB to 200 MHz (easy) you get a dual core at 4,0 GHz, for which you would normally have to pay a premium.

Plus, it's dual core, so easier multitasking as an added bonus and insult to injury. This will hurt AMD bad i'm afraid... enthusiasts will go to Intel now...

The most important thing is the FSB. Those $1000 dual core CPUs you talk about have FSB speeds of over 2000 MHz.

A CPU speed of 4.0 GHz isn't going to be of much use if your FSB is only 200 MHz.

[Incinerate_IV]

The most important thing is the FSB. Those $1000 dual core CPUs you talk about have FSB speeds of over 2000 MHz.

A CPU speed of 4.0 GHz isn't going to be of much use if your FSB is only 200 MHz.

Thats not true, the highend processor still has FSB of 200mhz, with some new DDR2 ones going to 250mhz, but over 2000mhz is impossible.

As for the overclocking, even if you can have 205 FSB it doesn't mean your computer is going to be stable. For any 4 ghz rig to be stable you would need some heavy cooling. The FSB doesn't really determine the stability of the CPU, most Intel motherboards can go up to 250-280 with no problem and AMD can go even higher.

[Richard the Lionheart]

Thats not true, the highend processor still has FSB of 200mhz, with some new DDR2 ones going to 250mhz, but over 2000mhz is impossible.

It's not impossible. My Athlon 64 3500+ Processor has a FSB speed of 2000 mhz and it's not a dual core.

[Custor]

It's not impossible. My Athlon 64 3500+ Processor has a FSB speed of 2000 mhz and it's not a dual core.

Suggest you go and check your CPU specs.

A low multiplier is important as it is able to take mobo and RAM specificiations out of the equation leaving you able to concentrate on the CPU.

My max FSB settings are 280 and 248. That would make hitting 300FSB with a 50% overclock on any other CPU - pretty hard.

[Darkragnar]

It's not impossible. My Athlon 64 3500+ Processor has a FSB speed of 2000 mhz and it's not a dual core.

ya i think it could be 200.0 Mhz instead of 2000.

[Richard the Lionheart]

ya i think it could be 200.0 Mhz instead of 2000.

It's not 200.0 Mhz. Trust me. It's 2000 Mhz.

For example:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1140392808026

Scroll down to the bottom and look at "system bus".

[Incinerate_IV]

It's not impossible. My Athlon 64 3500+ Processor has a FSB speed of 2000 mhz and it's not a dual core.

Thats bus speed, different from FSB. On Intel the system bus is quad pumped, so its 4x the FSB speed. Not sure for AMD though, but its the same idea.

[Custor]

...My Athlon 64 3500+ Processor has a FSB speed of 2000 mhz...

i have an amd64 3200+ with a 2000mhz fsb. care to question me?

As the man says...

Thats bus speed, different from FSB.

I'll set my mobo to 200FSB.
You guys can set them to 2000 if ya like. But I think you may set your HTB to 2000 and NOT your FSB.

EDIT
Nice overclock for a cheap as chips CPU. The actual point of the thread before willy waving came into play.

[Darkragnar]

i forgot to mention when overclocked to 3.33Gz u can run the Comp on the stadard voltage but due to the design of the Fan the system crashes out in 3 min, thats because intel designed the Fan to be as quite as possible and because of overclocking the power cosumtion increases by 24 W so basiclly if you remove the fan and putin a new one you can reach 3.33 Ghz without any Cooling(Besides the fan ofcourse)
and considering the Pentium Extreme Edition 840 CPU comes in at 3.20 Ghz stock (also with a price of $1,000) , thats not bad now is it