Possibility to add dismounted knight orders

**Noble Zweihander** · January 11, 2012, 04:56 AM

Is it possible to add the dismounted versions of the knight orders to Vanilla/Kingdoms. It is the only thing I really miss and specially templar/st. John.

Is there something like an easy mod for this to download or how can I do it myself. I really suck with modding so explain it to me like it is for dummies

and also if it is a download, in which folder do I put in etc.

Thanx for all the help

!

**attyla** · January 11, 2012, 06:26 AM

Of course it is. Use one of existing guide.

**Noble Zweihander** · January 11, 2012, 06:33 AM

Thanx for your response attyla but where can I find this guide?

**attyla** · January 11, 2012, 08:44 AM

Try to use this one:
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=78236

**Noble Zweihander** · January 11, 2012, 09:28 AM

This look a bit difficult, is there not an easy way like a download?

**attyla** · January 11, 2012, 09:54 AM

Unfortunatly there is not another way. You need to work using such material, you have received.
It's not difficult. If you know what you doing

If you not - you need to start from much easier things.

One more thing:
You also need to change models of units for dismounted version of units using lances.

**CavalryCmdr** · January 11, 2012, 11:23 AM

There is an easier, albeit wrong, way.

You NEED a formated model_db
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=196382
NOTE: If your using a mod you most likely already have a formated modeldb, it's easy to tell

Ok, now add this into your export_descr_unit.txt

Code:

type             Dismounted Templar
dictionary       Knights_Templar      ; Knights Templar
category         infantry
class            heavy
voice_type       Heavy
banner faction   main_infantry
banner unit      templars
soldier          Dismounted_Templar, 48, 0, 1.2
attributes       sea_faring, hide_forest, hardy, can_withdraw
formation        1.2, 1.2, 2.4, 2.4, 3, square
stat_health      1, 0
stat_pri         13, 3, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, sword, 25, 1
;stat_pri_ex      0, 0, 0
stat_pri_attr    no
stat_sec         0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 25, 1
;stat_sec_ex      0, 0, 0
stat_sec_attr    no
stat_pri_armour  7, 8, 6, metal
;stat_armour_ex   7, 8, 0, 0, 8, 6, 6, metal
stat_sec_armour  0, 0, flesh
stat_heat        5
stat_ground      1, -2, 3, 2
stat_mental      9, normal, trained
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay  0
stat_food        60, 300
stat_cost        1, 570, 225, 90, 70, 570, 4, 140
armour_ug_levels 3
armour_ug_models Dismounted_Templar
ownership        england
;unit_info        13, 0, 16
recruit_priority_offset    0

Then in your FORMATTED battle_models.modeldb add in:

Code:

22 Dismounted_Templar 
1 4 
69 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/dismounted_feudal_knights_lod0.mesh 121 
69 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/dismounted_feudal_knights_lod1.mesh 900 
69 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/dismounted_feudal_knights_lod2.mesh 2500 
69 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/dismounted_feudal_knights_lod3.mesh 6400 
1
7 england 
73 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/EN_Lmail_Hmail_templar.texture 
81 unit_models/_Units/EN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/EN_Lmail_Hmail_crusader_normal.texture 
57 unit_sprites/england_Dismounted_Feudal_Knights_sprite.spr 
1 
7 england 
68 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater Special_england_diff.texture 
68 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater Special_england_norm.texture 0  
1 
4 None 
14 MTW2_Swordsman 0  
2 
18 MTW2_Sword_Primary 
14 fs_test_shield 0 
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002

And voilà, Dismounted Templar knights available to England (for other factions you need to add the appropriate lines in the modeldb) these are the stats for dismounted feudal knights, adjust as you deem appropriate.

However, with this particular 'easy' method you have 3 glaring problems. 1; The unit card pic is the same as for the normal Templar, as is the written description, but the stats and soldier #'s are correct. 2; Your shields are slightly messed up, the alignment for the emblem is not always 100% so the shield will have some pretty funky designs, but it's not too dramatically awful. Finally 3; their 'sprite' meaning the display when zoomed out or far away, is that of normal dismounted feudal knights.

EDIT: I'm not sure if it matters or not, but, I placed the modeldb part right after the 'dismounted feudal' knights part:

Code:

60 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_hungary_diff.texture 
60 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_hungary_norm.texture 0  
1 
4 None 
14 MTW2_Swordsman 0  
2 
18 MTW2_Sword_Primary 
14 fs_test_shield 0 
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002 
Here
26 dismounted_english_knights 
1 3 
71 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/dismounted_english_knights_lod0.mesh 121 
71 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/dismounted_english_knights_lod1.mesh 1225 
71 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/dismounted_english_knights_lod2.mesh 6400

**CavalryCmdr** · January 11, 2012, 06:01 PM

Next to some real Templar

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

A Closer look:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

Fighting some French Dismounted Feudals:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

Hmm, should have turned up my graphics settings for this (currently lowest) but you get the idea

**danny X** · January 12, 2012, 05:46 AM

Originally Posted by Noble Zweihander

This look a bit difficult, is there not an easy way like a download?

This might interest you: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=432534

**Ishan** · January 11, 2012, 07:07 PM

It's not the graphic but UV coordinates of your texture.

**CavalryCmdr** · January 11, 2012, 09:36 PM

Oh, I know what is 'wrong' with the unit, I was just refering to the general quality, just an afterthought when I saw the pics. I figure this is about as close as you can get without art stuff (which I'm really REALLY bad at.) The messed up shield is better then a silly guy swinging a dis-jointed stick that half floated in the air

then again, I suppose you could just make them spearmen...

**valvegas1** · January 11, 2012, 10:21 PM

The unit info scroll is easy to fix...just use a closeup screenshot of the unit in a custom battle use paint.NET to crop it to the right size and to paste it on an existing one and save as the name of your unit and your all set...as for the unit card I personally haven't made or edited these myself but if you find a mod that has them already you could ask the team to use it...that's how i got the Dismounted Teutonic Knights card....or you could read the tutorial about making them and try doing it yourself...