Adding unit

**Data78** · January 10, 2012, 04:22 PM

I am playing kingdoms grand campaign mod, and they removed the men at arms from the grand campaign, but not custom battles...
how do i bring them back into grand campaign for Venice, Milan and Papal States?
men at arms go replaced with dismounted feudal lords and broken lances -.-
I miss my men at arms how do i bring them back in the coding?

**Ishan** · January 10, 2012, 05:33 PM

How to add an existing unit to another faction
^Read this, ask any question here if you don't understand the tutorial.

**Data78** · January 11, 2012, 02:42 AM

ok... i understand the export_descr_unit part... On
Kingdoms Grand Campaign Mod... I can't find the
Battle_models_modelbd file anywhere... more or less i can't find ANY file in the mod that shares resemblences... please help... goal:
trying to return Dismounted Broken Lances/Men At Arms/ Mounted Men At Arms back to Venetian/Milan/ Papal States factions into grand campaign, their in custom battles of the mod, but not in campaign...
I'm very confused right now... I can't find any files within the tutorial that rembles the Battle_mod file...

**Ishan** · January 11, 2012, 02:47 AM

Go in the KGCM folder and in it go in data\unit_models folder.

Inside this folder you will find battle_models.modeldb aka BMDB file.

**Data78** · January 11, 2012, 04:35 AM

how do i open it?

**irishron** · January 11, 2012, 07:25 AM

Notepad++ opens it and keeps its formatting intact.

**Squid** · January 11, 2012, 10:35 AM

They probably didn't remove the models, so just try adding the stuff the export_descr_buildings.txt before trying more complex modding like playing with the modelsdb file.

**Data78** · January 11, 2012, 04:29 PM

so this is what i did...
I placed export_desc_units and changed thier recruitmen priority to 20 like the broken lances and Fagmilia ducale (mounted)
I went to export_desc_buildings and added:

recruit_pool "Broken Lances" 1 0.5 2 0 requires factions { venice, milan, papal_states, }
recruit_pool "Men At Arms" 1 0.5 2 0 requires factions { venice, milan, papal_states,}

the same for dismounted except i added sicilly faction to the recruit pool
to earl's and kings stables recruit pools...

I launch the mod and it crashes... do i have to go to the modelsdb file and move around the Do'Hickeys and whatcha ma call its? "not a computer savy person"

**CavalryCmdr** · January 11, 2012, 04:45 PM

Did you add all the factions in the "ownership" line in desc_units?

should look something like:
ownership milan, venice, papal_states, slave

If it's a problem in desc_units or desc_buildings it should show up in the log, otherwise they probably did remove them from the modeldb

**Data78** · January 11, 2012, 04:46 PM

I'm looking at the modelsdb file and this is what i see reguarding MMA

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

Code:

11 italian_maa 
1 
3 
56 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/italian_maa_lod0.mesh 121 
56 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/italian_maa_lod1.mesh 1225 
56 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/italian_maa_lod2.mesh 6400 
4 
5 milan 
72 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_EN_Pplate_milan.texture 
73 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_EN_Pplate_normal.texture 
41 unit_sprites/milan_Italian_MAA_sprite.spr 
6 venice 
73 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_EN_Pplate_venice.texture 
73 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_EN_Pplate_normal.texture 
42 unit_sprites/venice_Italian_MAA_sprite.spr 
12 papal_states 
79 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_EN_Pplate_papal_states.texture 
73 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_EN_Pplate_normal.texture 
48 unit_sprites/papal_states_Italian_MAA_sprite.spr 
5 slave 
73 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_EN_Pplate_rebels.texture 
73 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_EN_Pplate_normal.texture 
41 unit_sprites/slave_Italian_MAA_sprite.spr 
4 
5 milan 
58 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_milan_diff.texture 
58 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_milan_norm.texture 
0  
6 venice 
59 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_venice_diff.texture 
59 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_venice_norm.texture 
0  
12 papal_states 
65 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_papal_states_diff.texture 
65 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_papal_states_norm.texture 
0  
5 slave 
58 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_slave_diff.texture 
58 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_slave_norm.texture 
0  
1 
5 Horse 
13 MTW2_HR_Lance 
13 MTW2_HR_Sword 
2 
21 MTW2_HR_Lance_Primary 
14 fs_test_shield 
2 
18 MTW2_Sword_Primary 
14 fs_test_shield 
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002 
15 italian_maa_ug1 
1 
3 
60 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/italian_maa_ug1_lod0.mesh 121 
60 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/italian_maa_ug1_lod1.mesh 1225 
60 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/italian_maa_ug1_lod2.mesh 6400 
4 
5 milan 
72 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_EN_Pplate_milan.texture 
73 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_EN_Pplate_normal.texture 
45 unit_sprites/milan_Italian_MAA_ug1_sprite.spr 
6 venice 
73 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_EN_Pplate_venice.texture 
73 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_EN_Pplate_normal.texture 
46 unit_sprites/venice_Italian_MAA_ug1_sprite.spr 
12 papal_states 
79 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_EN_Pplate_papal_states.texture 
73 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_EN_Pplate_normal.texture 
52 unit_sprites/papal_states_Italian_MAA_ug1_sprite.spr 
5 slave 
73 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_EN_Pplate_rebels.texture 
73 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_EN_Pplate_normal.texture 
45 unit_sprites/slave_Italian_MAA_ug1_sprite.spr 
4 
5 milan 
58 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_milan_diff.texture 
58 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_milan_norm.texture 
0  
6 venice 
59 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_venice_diff.texture 
59 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_venice_norm.texture 
0  
12 papal_states 
65 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_papal_states_diff.texture 
65 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_papal_states_norm.texture 
0  
5 slave 
58 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_slave_diff.texture 
58 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_slave_norm.texture 
0  
1 
5 Horse 
13 MTW2_HR_Lance 
13 MTW2_HR_Sword 
2 
21 MTW2_HR_Lance_Primary 
14 fs_test_shield 
2 
18 MTW2_Sword_Primary 
14 fs_test_shield 
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002 
15 italian_maa_ug2 
1 
4 
63 unit_models/_Units/LN_Gothic_RN_Plate/italian_maa_ug2_lod0.mesh 121 
63 unit_models/_Units/LN_Gothic_RN_Plate/italian_maa_ug2_lod1.mesh 900 
63 unit_models/_Units/LN_Gothic_RN_Plate/italian_maa_ug2_lod2.mesh 2500 
63 unit_models/_Units/LN_Gothic_RN_Plate/italian_maa_ug2_lod3.mesh 6400 
4 
5 milan 
79 unit_models/_Units/LN_Gothic_RN_Plate/textures/LN_gothic_RN_plate_milan.texture 
80 unit_models/_Units/LN_Gothic_RN_Plate/textures/LN_gothic_RN_plate_normal.texture 
45 unit_sprites/milan_Italian_MAA_ug2_sprite.spr 
6 venice 
80 unit_models/_Units/LN_Gothic_RN_Plate/textures/LN_gothic_RN_plate_venice.texture 
80 unit_models/_Units/LN_Gothic_RN_Plate/textures/LN_gothic_RN_plate_normal.texture 
46 unit_sprites/venice_Italian_MAA_ug2_sprite.spr 
12 papal_states 
86 unit_models/_Units/LN_Gothic_RN_Plate/textures/LN_gothic_RN_plate_papal_states.texture 
80 unit_models/_Units/LN_Gothic_RN_Plate/textures/LN_gothic_RN_plate_normal.texture 
52 unit_sprites/papal_states_Italian_MAA_ug2_sprite.spr 
5 slave 
80 unit_models/_Units/LN_Gothic_RN_Plate/textures/LN_gothic_RN_plate_rebels.texture 
80 unit_models/_Units/LN_Gothic_RN_Plate/textures/LN_gothic_RN_plate_normal.texture 
45 unit_sprites/slave_Italian_MAA_ug2_sprite.spr 
4 
5 milan 
58 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_milan_diff.texture 
58 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_milan_norm.texture 
0  
6 venice 
59 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_venice_diff.texture 
59 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_venice_norm.texture 
0  
12 papal_states 
65 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_papal_states_diff.texture 
65 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_papal_states_norm.texture 
0  
5 slave 
58 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_slave_diff.texture 
58 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_slave_norm.texture 
0  
1 
5 Horse 
13 MTW2_HR_Lance 
13 MTW2_HR_Sword 
2 
21 MTW2_HR_Lance_Primary 
14 fs_test_shield 
2 
18 MTW2_Sword_Primary 
14 fs_test_shield 
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002 
13 broken_lances 
1 
3 
58 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/broken_lances_lod0.mesh 121 
58 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/broken_lances_lod1.mesh 1225 
58 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/broken_lances_lod2.mesh 6400 
3 
5 milan 
72 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_EN_Pplate_milan.texture 
73 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_EN_Pplate_normal.texture 
53 unit_sprites/milan_Knights_Hospitaller_ug2_sprite.spr 
6 venice 
73 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_EN_Pplate_venice.texture 
73 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_EN_Pplate_normal.texture 
54 unit_sprites/venice_Knights_Hospitaller_ug2_sprite.spr 
12 papal_states 
79 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_EN_Pplate_papal_states.texture 
73 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_EN_Pplate_normal.texture 
60 unit_sprites/papal_states_Knights_Hospitaller_ug2_sprite.spr 
3 
5 milan 
58 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_milan_diff.texture 
58 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_milan_norm.texture 
0  
6 venice 
59 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_venice_diff.texture 
59 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_venice_norm.texture 
0  
12 papal_states 
65 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_papal_states_diff.texture 
65 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_papal_states_norm.texture 
0  
1 
5 Horse 
13 MTW2_HR_Lance 
18 MTW2_HR_Non_Shield 
1 
21 MTW2_HR_Lance_Primary 
1 
18 MTW2_Sword_Primary 
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002 
17 broken_lances_ug1 
1 
4 
65 unit_models/_Units/LN_Gothic_RN_Plate/broken_lances_ug1_lod0.mesh 121 
65 unit_models/_Units/LN_Gothic_RN_Plate/broken_lances_ug1_lod1.mesh 900 
65 unit_models/_Units/LN_Gothic_RN_Plate/broken_lances_ug1_lod2.mesh 2500 
65 unit_models/_Units/LN_Gothic_RN_Plate/broken_lances_ug1_lod3.mesh 6400 
3 
5 milan 
79 unit_models/_Units/LN_Gothic_RN_Plate/textures/LN_gothic_RN_plate_milan.texture 
80 unit_models/_Units/LN_Gothic_RN_Plate/textures/LN_gothic_RN_plate_normal.texture 
51 unit_sprites/milan_SE_Late_Bodyguard_ug1_sprite.spr 
6 venice 
80 unit_models/_Units/LN_Gothic_RN_Plate/textures/LN_gothic_RN_plate_venice.texture 
80 unit_models/_Units/LN_Gothic_RN_Plate/textures/LN_gothic_RN_plate_normal.texture 
52 unit_sprites/venice_SE_Late_Bodyguard_ug1_sprite.spr 
12 papal_states 
86 unit_models/_Units/LN_Gothic_RN_Plate/textures/LN_gothic_RN_plate_papal_states.texture 
80 unit_models/_Units/LN_Gothic_RN_Plate/textures/LN_gothic_RN_plate_normal.texture 
58 unit_sprites/papal_states_SE_Late_Bodyguard_ug1_sprite.spr 
3 
5 milan 
58 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_milan_diff.texture 
58 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_milan_norm.texture 
0  
6 venice 
59 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_venice_diff.texture 
59 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_venice_norm.texture 
0  
12 papal_states 
65 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_papal_states_diff.texture 
65 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_papal_states_norm.texture 
0  
1 
5 Horse 
13 MTW2_HR_Lance 
18 MTW2_HR_Non_Shield 
1 
21 MTW2_HR_Lance_Primary 
1 
18 MTW2_Sword_Primary 
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002 
15 famiglia_ducale

Another question is it against the rules to post this data? I'm new to this mod workshop thing in general...

**CavalryCmdr** · January 11, 2012, 05:09 PM

It might be a bit easier to post your log. PLEASE just post the last several lines and use the "code" tag (the little # at the top of your post typing box. Otherwise upload the log as a zip.

Without doing all the counting I do not see any glaring problem with you modeldb except where yours seems to look like:

Code:

5 milan 
58 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_milan_diff.texture 
58 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_milan_norm.texture 
0 
6 venice

Mine looks like:

Code:

5 milan 
58 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_milan_diff.texture 
58 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Heater_milan_norm.texture 0
6 venice

Note the 0, but I am not familiar enough with the modeldb at this point to say if it matters (just started playing with it 2 days ago)

**Data78** · January 11, 2012, 05:34 PM

how do i zip it?

**danny X** · January 11, 2012, 05:04 PM

can you attatch your edb, or add this entry here with coding tags, e.g click advanced and then #, so the entry looks like this:

Code:

recruit_pool "Broken Lances" 1 0.5 2 0 requires factions { venice, milan, papal_states, }
recruit_pool "Men At Arms" 1 0.5 2 0 requires factions { venice, milan, papal_states,}

anyway for now compare the two lines and you will see a difference at the end of each line, the top one is correct.

The end of the second line is all one entry, you have missed a space between papal_states, and } .

i hope that made sense!

**irishron** · January 11, 2012, 05:54 PM

Use a free version of 7zip or Winrar.

**Ishan** · January 11, 2012, 07:06 PM

Windows can also create a zip folder. Just use that.

**Data78** · January 11, 2012, 07:35 PM

this is my first attempt... that has my modified Export_desc_buildings, Export_desc_units, and Battle_models_modeldb files... idk whats wrong with them trying to get
Broken Lances, and men at arms back to factions... idk what is wrong with it that causes game to crash

this is from KGCM mod

**CavalryCmdr** · January 11, 2012, 11:19 PM

Ok, I missed the part before where you said they were available in the custom battles just not the campaign.
So the ONLY file you have to edit is the export_descr_buildings.txt, if you edited any other files you really should just replace them with a backup.

In export_descr_buildings.txt you are calling them "Men At Arms" it should be "Italian MAA"

Sorry for the confusion

Sadly I dont know if modifications to the edb are save compatable, but I'm sure Ishan or irishron will know.

in the edu "recruit_priority_offset" is just for the AI, it is not needed. Feel free to edit it again, but test to make sure the game works with just the changes to edb first please.

**Data78** · January 12, 2012, 12:24 AM

OHHH THEIR ITALIAN MAA?!?!?!?!?!?

correction Italian MAA*
OMG IT DOESN'T CRASH!!! woot!!!! I can make kick ass Men at arms... Sorry for cursing "kick ass"
Thanks Cavalry!!!