The War To End All Wars: modding progress

[PunitorMaximus]

austro-hungarian lancers and german uhlans

[ComnenusTheOne]

haha yeah i can upload some images of austrian and german uhlans/lancers.
maybe i will make textures for the serbian, romanian, portugeese and russian models.
i would prefer to get some information about spanish and greek infantry. the most common headgear and uniforms and so on.

I thought i gave you some photos, or sketches of the greek army before and after the great war, they are of course in the old thread, which i think i can dig up and show you.

austro-hungarian lancers and german uhlans

You mean target jacks for the machine guns right?

Ahem, Greek Units.

Spoiler for From 1870 to 1910: 

Spoiler for 1910 to 1960-70: 

You notice the difference from the old ones to the new ones. The uniform color is a green khaki, like the British but greener. And the boots are not black. They are brown. The kepi, as you well mentioned before, is not like the French kepi, but more like a mix between kepi and the cossack hat.

Spoiler for Cavalry officer and trooper: 

Spoiler for Evzones regiment: 

Now, the Evzones were both fighting regiments and the king's guard (and presidential after the abdication of king).

[Dr. Croccer]

Wow, that's some amazing progress! Hey, if you need any help with historical info, I'll be more than happy to help. Here's the old ETW WWI mod's thread (which died), which has alot of info by myself and such. I hope it's helpful.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...&highlight=WWI

[PunitorMaximus]

thx to you guys!
i forgot the pictures in the old thread.
i thought about this greek unit types for TWTEAW:
infantry => khaki uniform with pilikion
artillery => like infantry
dragoons => blue uniform+kepi-like headgear
dragoons2 => looks like mounted infantry
snipers=> ugly white uniform+strange cap with bobble. orshould i paint them khaki too?

i think i´ll finish some greek, serbian and romanian units today. maybe bulgarian, russian and portuguese too.

anyone out there who could maybe make animations like this:

1. guy runs/walks, then he puts down a machine gun lies down and starts firing about 100 shots. i know that this is really difficult to make but i think its possible.
2. easy one! guy puts in a gun projectile backwards, other guy fumbles at the gun=> gun fires
3. some crawling and reload animations for infantry and cavalry?

would be great!

[Dr. Croccer]

Some pictures of Mexican troops during the Revolution, it's hard to make out which are which (whether supporters of Diaz or part of the various rebel groups), so it'd be best if both have largely the same roster.

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Of rebels.







Rebels


Rurales


Rancheros


Rebels



Zapatistas


Federal (government) soldiers (under Diaz, so ''early')


Federal soldiers (under Huerta, so ''late'')

Concerning governments, it'd be a good idea to get rid of the one of the monarchial forms of governments and replace it with Communism if possible. So that you'd have the choice out of a Democracy, a Monarchy and a Socialist state. A lower class revolt in a Republic or Monarchy would result in Communist insurrection.

Some flag ideas. (Just ideas, not the most historically accurate or which I want in the game)

Ukraine (if it'd be made into a revolting faction)

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Monarchy/Republic



Socialist state

or

Mexico

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Ottoman Empire

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Republic



Communist

(One used by a modern party in Turkey, if anyone has a better one)

Germany

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Monarchy



Republic



Communist

Bavaria

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Monarchy



Republic



Socialist

Russia

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Monarchy/Republic



Socialist

[ComnenusTheOne]

thx to you guys!
i forgot the pictures in the old thread.
i thought about this greek unit types for TWTEAW:
infantry => khaki uniform with pilikion
artillery => like infantry
dragoons => blue uniform+kepi-like headgear
dragoons2 => looks like mounted infantry
snipers=> ugly white uniform+strange cap with bobble. orshould i paint them khaki too?

Ahem!!! The "ugly white uniform" is the uniform of the Evzones, the king's guard if you like. They should really be some crack melee unit to storm positions, rather than a sniping one. Snipers should have the standard khaki one, or the blue+kepi.

[PunitorMaximus]

oh ok! am i right if i think that the blue guys are dragoons?

[PunitorMaximus]

portuguese and serbian infantry!

[B-DizL]

Hey Punitor heres some equipment reference pics for most of the major nations, its from the dev forum of TGW.

Major factions equipment:

Germany, Austria-Hungary and Belgium.

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France and Great Britain.

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Italy, Russia, Serbia and Romania.

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USA and Portugal.

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[ComnenusTheOne]

oh ok! am i right if i think that the blue guys are dragoons?

Hmmm, lemme put it this way.

Dark blue tunic + light blue OR light yellow OR white trousers + dark blue kepi = Pre 1910 infantry. (forget those, this uniform was obsolete by 1910, wasnt used)

Dark blue tunic + dark blue pants + dark blue kepi = Light infantry, Chasseurs, Dragoons.
Dark red tunic + green khaki pants + red kepi = Volunteers from Italy and other places Greeks lived.

Green khaki all + pilikion = Line Infantry (if you can call em like that), Artillery.

Hussaria was obsolete at that time so no reason to even represent them.

portuguese and serbian infantry!

Thats the Serbian late uniform. You should add the early as well. And in this model, the color need to be darker, olive green.

[PunitorMaximus]

didnt saw your great research yesterday dr. croccer! many thanks! exactly what i need!

what does the early look like?
i thought the late ones used the adriatic helmet?

hey b-dizl: as im using our f***in bad school pc i cant look at your equip. are this already the models or "just" pictures? im gonna check it when im at home!

[PunitorMaximus]

anyone knows something about spanish ww1 uniforms? they didnt took part at the war but they of course had an army too!

comneustheone: could u please tell me which factions infantry used jacket pockets? here are the outcomes of my research: german, austria and many others dont used pockets regularly! the uniforms were often differed very much concerning the pockets. most of the factions used no pockets at all, but only ammo bags! later the ammo bags were removed by pockets(after ww1). often the soldiers made pockets by themselves for tobacco, pictures, bibles and other personal stuff, but pockets werent rule. if you got other knowlegdge pls tell me!

[ComnenusTheOne]

what does the early look like?
i thought the late ones used the adriatic helmet?

The pre-Balkan and Great War uniform of the Serbs was the same pretty much, with the very same sajkaca, only it wasnt olive green but light blue tunic and sajkaca and cherry red pants. Some of them were all light blue. The adrian helmet was an extra of the late uniform. Though to be honest, early and late uniform were both used until the very end of the war, with helmets being used whenever the allied forces could spare them for the Serbs. Since the majority of the Serb army was located in the Macedonian front after the fall of Serbia, they were usually getting French and Greek equipment, thus making a mess of the standard issue uniform.

comneustheone: could u please tell me which factions infantry used jacket pockets? here are the outcomes of my research: german, austria and many others dont used pockets regularly! the uniforms were often differed very much concerning the pockets. most of the factions used no pockets at all, but only ammo bags! later the ammo bags were removed by pockets(after ww1). often the soldiers made pockets by themselves for tobacco, pictures, bibles and other personal stuff, but pockets werent rule. if you got other knowlegdge pls tell me!

No pictures at the moment, but as you saw from the pictures, the Greek army definately had jacket pockets. Now the rest Balkans as far as i know didn't have jacket pockets, or they had some, but because of the winter coats, there were unseen, as the coat pretty much covered their tunic. The Bulgarians had pockets on each side of their coats, but on the sides, not chest pockets. The Serb army, except the officers didnt have jacket pockets. The French late khaki had jacket pockets, unsure if the blue uniform also had. The Turkish didnt have and i dont know about Romania and Russia, i suppose they did.

[PunitorMaximus]

i think ill only make them for greek infantry and british/portuguese troops, because i would have to reconvert all models back. my texturing effort arent good.
finished the adriatic helmet now! serbia, greece france and italy will be completed soon! im gonna upload some screenshots in a few minutes.

[ComnenusTheOne]

i think ill only make them for greek infantry and british/portuguese troops, because i would have to reconvert all models back. my texturing effort arent good.
finished the adriatic helmet now! serbia, greece france and italy will be completed soon! im gonna upload some screenshots in a few minutes.

I think thats probably for the best. Eagerly awaiting for le awesome screenshots.

[PunitorMaximus]

here they are! the adriatic isnt perfect till now, but i think its a good impression of what will come for the other adriatic using factions.
plus an image of serbian artillery and italian regulars.

[PunitorMaximus]

i think about loading up a video clip. on the one hand its lagging because of the huge amount of soldiers. on the other hand you will hear how it sounds like. i can promise, that it sounds epic! wicked explosion bass, good rifle and mg sound and crying, moaning men. would you like to see one? just tell me

[B-DizL]

Nice screenshots + rep

Thats weird you cant see the reference pics, i saved them in a zip file for you.

Also can you release a new build of the mod with your new units added, id love to check out your models

[PunitorMaximus]

sure! in 9 h the new version is going to be online
there are some sound bugs and textures that should be polished...

[PunitorMaximus]

too much to do! maybe i will get it tomorrow.
can anyone make a ms3d model of this hat? i tried it and failed...