Improve faction standigs?

**Kiliç Alì** · December 30, 2011, 09:50 AM

I have an event wich can be accepted\declined.
I want this event,if accepted, to increase the faction standings between England and Moors to a value of 0.1 if they are =< 0 and not at war, to add 0.5 to their relations if they are > 0.

The problems are two:
How can I test the numeric value of their relations?
How can I add a fix value to thier relations?

can you help me?

Here is some piece of code:

Code:

 
monitor_conditions [conditions]
 if not DiplomaticStanceFromFaction venice moors = AtWar
  historic_event skull true factions { venice, }
  add_events
   event counter skull_accepted
   event counter skull_declined
  end_add_events
 end_if
terminate_monitor
end_monitor
;---------------accepts skull
monitor_conditions I_EventCounter skull_accepted = 1
 historic_event skull_accepted false factions { venice, moors, }
 set_faction_standing moors venice 0.1       
 set_faction_standing venice moors 0.1            ->here the problem! if the faction_standings are greater, they become lower - and I want to avoid it.
terminate_monitor
end_monitor
;-----------rejects skull
monitor_conditions I_EventCounter declined = 1
 historic_event skull_declined false factions { venice, }
terminate_monitor
end_monitor

**valvegas1** · December 30, 2011, 10:20 AM

sorry the code isn't coming out right for me

**Kiliç Alì** · December 30, 2011, 10:28 AM

from docudemos:

Code:

Identifier:              FactionStanding
Trigger requirements:    faction, target_faction
Parameters:              logic token, quantity
Sample use:              FactionStanding > 0.0
Description:             what is the standing (relationship) of a faction towards the target faction
Battle or Strat:         Either
Class:                   FACTION_STANDING
Implemented:             Yes
Author:                  ScottL

It wouldn work only with monitor_event FactionTurnStart or similar, not with a monitor_conditions

**valvegas1** · December 30, 2011, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by Kiliç Alì

from docudemos:

Code:

Identifier:              FactionStanding
Trigger requirements:    faction, target_faction
Parameters:              logic token, quantity
Sample use:              FactionStanding > 0.0
Description:             what is the standing (relationship) of a faction towards the target faction
Battle or Strat:         Either
Class:                   FACTION_STANDING
Implemented:             Yes
Author:                  ScottL

It wouldn work only with monitor_event FactionTurnStart or similar, not with a monitor_conditions

yeah sorry i forgot about that...I looked through and I don't see any I_ conditions to test faction standings...but, why couldn't you set it up as an event monitor?

EDIT: nevermind that question i just remembered....sorry it's kind of early here...

**valvegas1** · December 30, 2011, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by Kiliç Alì

I have an event wich can be accepted\declined.
I want this event,if accepted, to increase the faction standings between England and Moors to a value of 0.1 if they are =< 0 and not at war, to add 0.5 to their relations if they are > 0.

The problems are two:
How can I test the numeric value of their relations?
How can I add a fix value to thier relations?

can you help me?

Here is some piece of code:

Code:

 
monitor_conditions [conditions]
 if not DiplomaticStanceFromFaction venice moors = AtWar
  historic_event skull true factions { venice, }
  add_events
   event counter skull_accepted
   event counter skull_declined
  end_add_events
 end_if
terminate_monitor
end_monitor
;---------------accepts skull
monitor_conditions I_EventCounter skull_accepted = 1
 historic_event skull_accepted false factions { venice, moors, }
 set_faction_standing moors venice 0.1       
 set_faction_standing venice moors 0.1            ->here the problem! if the faction_standings are greater, they become lower - and I want to avoid it.
terminate_monitor
end_monitor
;-----------rejects skull
monitor_conditions I_EventCounter declined = 1
 historic_event skull_declined false factions { venice, }
terminate_monitor
end_monitor

Try adding this to your script....

Code:

monitor_conditions I_EventCounter skull_accepted = 1
 and FactionStanding moors venice < 0.1 
 and FactionStanding venice moors < 0.1
 historic_event skull_accepted false factions { venice, moors, }
 set_faction_standing moors venice 0.1       
 set_faction_standing venice moors 0.1 
terminate_monitor

end_monitorI hope this is what your looking for...

**Taiji** · December 30, 2011, 06:20 PM

You need to check faction standings, and set up counters for them, before the skull event fires. Then when the rewards are attributed you can set faction standing as determined by your counters and have the effect of incrementing it.

**TNZ** · December 30, 2011, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by Taiji

You need to check faction standings, and set up counters for them, before the skull event fires. Then when the rewards are attributed you can set faction standing as determined by your counters and have the effect of incrementing it.

Like this:

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Code:

declare_counter venice_moors_standing

	monitor_event PreFactionTurnStart FactionIsLocal
		and FactionType venice
		and TargetFactionType moors
		and FactionStanding = 0.1
		set_counter quarter 1
	end_monitor

	monitor_event PreFactionTurnStart FactionIsLocal
		and FactionType venice
		and TargetFactionType moors
		and FactionStanding = 0.2
		set_counter quarter 2
	end_monitor

	monitor_event PreFactionTurnStart FactionIsLocal
		and FactionType venice
		and TargetFactionType moors
		and FactionStanding = 0.3
		set_counter quarter 3
	end_monitor

	monitor_event PreFactionTurnStart FactionIsLocal
		and FactionType venice
		and TargetFactionType moors
		and FactionStanding = 0.4
		set_counter quarter 4
	end_monitor

	monitor_event PreFactionTurnStart FactionIsLocal
		and FactionType venice
		and TargetFactionType moors
		and FactionStanding = 0.5
		set_counter quarter 5
	end_monitor

	monitor_event PreFactionTurnStart FactionIsLocal
		and FactionType venice
		and TargetFactionType moors
		and FactionStanding = 0.6
		set_counter quarter 6
	end_monitor

	monitor_event PreFactionTurnStart FactionIsLocal
		and FactionType venice
		and TargetFactionType moors
		and FactionStanding = 0.7
		set_counter quarter 7
	end_monitor

	monitor_event PreFactionTurnStart FactionIsLocal
		and FactionType venice
		and TargetFactionType moors
		and FactionStanding = 0.8
		set_counter quarter 8
	end_monitor

	monitor_event PreFactionTurnStart FactionIsLocal
		and FactionType venice
		and TargetFactionType moors
		and FactionStanding = 0.9
		set_counter quarter 9
	end_monitor


	monitor_event PreFactionTurnStart FactionIsLocal
		and FactionType venice
		and TargetFactionType moors
		and FactionStanding = 1.0
		set_counter quarter 10
	end_monitor

Code:

;---------------accepts skull

	monitor_conditions I_EventCounter skull_accepted = 1
		if I_CompareCounter venice_moors_standing = 1
 		set_faction_standing venice moors ...
	end_if
		if I_CompareCounter venice_moors_standing = 2
 		set_faction_standing venice moors ...
	end_if
		if I_CompareCounter venice_moors_standing = 3
 		set_faction_standing venice moors ...
	end_if
		if I_CompareCounter venice_moors_standing = 4
 		set_faction_standing venice moors ...
	end_if
		if I_CompareCounter venice_moors_standing = 5
 		set_faction_standing venice moors ...
	end_if
		if I_CompareCounter venice_moors_standing = 6
 		set_faction_standing venice moors ...
	end_if
		if I_CompareCounter venice_moors_standing = 7
 		set_faction_standing venice moors ...
	end_if
		if I_CompareCounter venice_moors_standing = 8
 		set_faction_standing venice moors ...
	end_if
		if I_CompareCounter venice_moors_standing = 9
 		set_faction_standing venice moors ...
	end_if
		if I_CompareCounter venice_moors_standing = 10
 		set_faction_standing venice moors ...
	end_if
		historic_event skull_yes factions { venice, moors, }
	terminate_monitor
	end_monitor

;-----------rejects skull

	monitor_conditions I_EventCounter declined = 1
 		historic_event skull_no factions { venice, }
	terminate_monitor
	end_monitor

**Kiliç Alì** · December 31, 2011, 04:17 AM

Thanks both very much.
It should work even if I change each monitor in the first part with a multiple if, right?
Let's give it a try...

EDIT obviously the counter name is not "quarter" but "venice_moors_standing"
and since relations can be > 0.1 and < 0.2, this has to be specified aswell, but it definitely works. thanks very much men

**TNZ** · December 31, 2011, 04:53 PM

EDIT obviously the counter name is not "quarter" but "venice_moors_standing"
and since relations can be > 0.1 and < 0.2, this has to be specified aswell, but it definitely works. thanks very much men

Yes:

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**Taiji** · December 31, 2011, 06:02 PM

OK, nice script TNZ but 3 problems:

Use UpdateAttitude instead of PreFactionTurnStart. This is because PFTS will not export a target faction, and because unnecessary use of PFTS is evil.

Problem 2 is that you are measuring the AI's standing with the player not the other way around, and I guess you want it the other way around...

And problem 3 is that I think you have to use < and > with FactionStanding because it doesn't round down. If faction standing is at 0.100001 then it will not return as 0.1 or 0.2 for the purposes of the script. Hence the counter might get stuck for several rounds before registering a nice round number by chance.

monitor_event UpdateAttitude FactionType venice
and TargetFactionType moors
and I_LocalFaction moors
and FactionStanding > 0.55
and FactionStanding < 0.651
set_counter venice_moors_standing 6
end_monitor

Or something like that.

And if something triggers the skull event then maybe that can trigger this factionstanding tracking, so it's only on when needed.

**Withwnar** · January 06, 2012, 03:12 AM

Originally Posted by Taiji

unnecessary use of PFTS is evil

Why is that Taiji? Something peculiar to PFTS or do you mean in general it's better to handle it in a response to the event/occurrence in question, rather than testing for it in generic turn end monitors?

**TNZ** · December 31, 2011, 07:35 PM

Taiji: You're right on all three counts. I was just wondering if you could use an event counter in the‘descr_faction_standing’ file. That way, you could avoid needing a script that detects ‘FactionStanding’ in the first place.