Premarital Sex from a religious point of view

[Eric]

I'm Catholic, now the Roman Catholic Church has some rather extreme thoughts on premarital sex. Somehow, having sex before marriage damms your soul to an eternity in the fiery depths of hell, or at the best, a very long time in Purgatory. But, God created the Body and the Mind and Sex is an expression of the Body and Mind how God punish you for expressing that which he gave you? Sex is also the ultimate expression of Love and God deemed love to be the greatest of all emotions, that without love a human is nothing, how can you be punished for expressing love? Well, those are my thoughts on premarital sex, i'd like to hear some others.

[ZaPPPa]

He is testing your love for him... at least, that's what the guy in the robe keeps telling me.

[John Wayne]

Sex is also Original Sin, which is why priests aren't supposed to 'do it'. God makes these kinds of paradoxs in order to help us determine whether we have what it takes (a test of faith if you will) to become a member of the clergy or not. Having premarital sex may be against the doctrine of the RC Church, but I highly doubt it is something that God puts much emphasis on when He judges you when you die.

[Tony83]

Well, if sex is the ultimate expression of love, I'd better tell my mum that we're just good friends!

[removeduser_487563287433]

The Roman Catholic Church only teaches celibacy because misery loves company.

[DasBoot]

It was originally because fathers wouldn't get such a good price selling their daughters into marriage if they weren't virgins. All the 'test of faith' stuff is just interpretation added in later.

[Kino]

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[Zuwxiv]

Somehow, I don't get the image of a wrathful, vengeful god.

"So, have you been a good soul?"
"Well, I donated my entire life to spreading your word. But I fell in love when I was 23, and after 15 years of dating, I had premarital sex. We got married three years later."
"CONDEMNED TO HELL! BURN!"

"So, have you been a good soul?"
"Well, I always had respect for other people. I never raised my fist in anger. I was peaceful and loving to all my neighbors and enemies. But I call you Allah instead of God."
"CONDEMNED TO HELL! BURN!"

It is my opinion that God accepts that we are sinful. If we are repentant, he accepts our impurities. After all, wasn't the whole point of that Jesus thing to prove that he was forgiving?

[Zenith Darksea]

I'm amazed that nobody has actually mentioned marriage yet! You're right, sex is an expression of love. But 'true' love can only exist between two people, and they must first be married. Then they can have as much sex as they like, but extra-marital sex cannot be allowed. After all, the sanctity of Christian marriage must be upheld.

[Tom Paine]

True love exists before the marriage as well surely, or does it suddenly spring up and appear as the couple says their vows?

[Bwaho]

It is my opinion that God accepts that we are sinful

it is my oppinion that christianity is an oriental religion with elements we should not embrace.
It teaches the oriental mentality of subjecting oneself to a superior power. It is a bargain mentality where you pray (or bargain really): "if I pray to you lord, you will treat me better ok?"

[Zenith Darksea]

Don't be silly Squeaker. You know what I meant. You have to confirm your love before God in marriage first, before you can move on to that stage.

Bwaho - are you saying that Western religions don't have the element of submission in them? Perhaps you ought to think that statement through again.

[removeduser_487563287433]

I think you would be hard pressed to find a religion without submission in it.

[Zenith Darksea]

Apart from Epicurean polytheism perhaps, but that's practically as Oriental as Christianity anyway.

[removeduser_487563287433]

Apart from Epicurean polytheism perhaps, but that's practically as Oriental as Christianity anyway.

Well, only if you're using the rather outdated boundary for orientalism as the Aegean Sea.

[Zenith Darksea]

Well, Christianity is actually more rooted in Greece than in Syria, as Greece was the real cradle of the early Church.

[Lusted]

I'm amazed that nobody has actually mentioned marriage yet! You're right, sex is an expression of love. But 'true' love can only exist between two people, and they must first be married. Then they can have as much sex as they like, but extra-marital sex cannot be allowed. After all, the sanctity of Christian marriage must be upheld.

Well as someone who has had sex outside of marriage, and never intends to get married as i do not see how it is needed as i am not christian, this does seem a bit strange to me. You are saying that marriage is the ultimate experssion of true love between two people, before God, and then you can have sex as much as you want? Do you consider pre-marital sex a sin then, and a bad one? I personally feel that you do not need to get married to make your love sanctimonius(probably not the right word but i hope you can work out what i mean). Love is perhaps the greatest emotion we can feel, we should not need some form of contract to make it real and allow us to consumate it. Sex is the ultimate experssion of your love for someone in my view, as you are letting yourself go with another person, and experiencing one of the simplest and greatest things. Why the church is so against sex outside of marriage is beyond me, surely it should be about whether the people having are in love with each other, and care greatly about each other, and trust each other.

[Zenith Darksea]

Lusted, the title of this thread is 'Premarital sex from a religious point of view'. So obviously I'm going to talk about a religious perspective on love. Yes, sex outside marriage is generally, in the Christian faith, a sin. And yes, in the Christian faith, marriage is the ultimate expression of love. It gives permanence and confirms a couple's devotion to each other. Sex outside marriage has connotations of being fleeting and temporary.

[Lusted]

I know it is premarital sex from a religous point of view, but surely i can argue against the religious point of view on this, or would you prefer i made a seperate thread for that? We could always have the thread split if you feel it is going too off-topic, i just seek to discuss the religious view on premarital sex, that is all. Sex outside of marriage does not have connotations of being fleeting and temporary to me, to me it is the ultimate experssion of your love for another person, and i feel it should only happen in stable relationships where the two people are sure they are in love with each other. I do not feel i need marriage to make a relationship permanent, or a feeling of permanence, a relationship should already be like that before you think about getting married.

[Bwaho]

Bwaho - are you saying that Western religions don't have the element of submission in them? Perhaps you ought to think that statement through again.

hmm, where did I say: "western religions don't have the element of submission in them"?