Mangonel for Isengard ? :)

**Adjudant-Major** · December 28, 2011, 09:06 AM

I am experimenting with the mangonel or barrelthrower for Isengard, possibly also for the Corsairs of Umbar, and I think I will keep them

...what do you think ? They add some nice effects to the battles...

**Mhaedros** · December 28, 2011, 09:09 AM

Legolose, where is your video?

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**Lazy** · December 28, 2011, 09:12 AM

Mangonel is the most powerfull siege weapon in Stainless Steel... it kills way more then the best cannon is able too ( exept if the enemies cannon kills the mangonel

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...and as there are no cannons in ME it would be the strongest unit...

Another question is that lore question... I dunno if they had burning liquids over there... I am a lore-rapist not a lore-lover

I would see that as overpowered... If I would be able to build them I would change my whole tactics into a turtle army with 4 mangonels...

**Adjudant-Major** · December 28, 2011, 09:19 AM

It's basically a question of stats, accuracy and cost. They seem quite powerful as they are now with the original stats, but it can be reduced, and they can be made very rare. We have ents, we have the balrog, we have Sauron, I don't think balance might be harmed by a sort of catapult

They had the gunpowder and they used the oil to burn their dead.

**Maiar93** · December 28, 2011, 09:21 AM

Tolkien also wrote something along the lines of that "Goblins liked bangs and explosions and may have invented a lot of machines that can kill a lot of people at the same time" in The Hobbit.

**Ngugi** · December 28, 2011, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by Maiar93

Tolkien also wrote something along the lines of that "Goblins liked bangs and explosions and may have invented a lot of machines that can kill a lot of people at the same time" in The Hobbit.

True, but that was refering to far later times (and seems to be refering to the horrid war machines and weapons out of modern time really, as some kind of sensemoral), not the Third Age.

**Incredible Bulk** · December 28, 2011, 02:41 PM

I think its great

**Wismer** · December 28, 2011, 02:58 PM

ahh, I am not so sure about mangonels from a game mechanics perspective. In my experience in SS, the AI knew how to use them OK but definitely did not know how to react to them well enough. Often they'd just be stationary and take the massive casualty hits they inflict.

**Adjudant-Major** · December 28, 2011, 03:00 PM

I have reduced them to one machine per unit, made them expensive... I will test them more later. Most probably, if I keep them, I'll use them also for the Dwarves