Point to an Agent Traits List?

[Live2sculpt]

Unorthidoxy, subterfuge, charm, etc..
We can generally guess which of these traits are for which agent types.
But do we have a DEFINITIVE list specifying them for us somewhere?
And is there a means to adding, swapping, or removing them from the agent types?

[irishron]

Have you checked the Docudemons?

[Taiji]

export_descr_character_traits.txt lists the traits, and the agent types they operate on, before listing the triggers. So you can try restricting the agent types there.

[Live2sculpt]

export_descr_character_traits.txt lists the traits, and the agent types they operate on, before listing the triggers. So you can try restricting the agent types there.

Cheers!
What I'm fuzzy about are the Effect lines (note NOT Affects) Diplomat=Influence Spy=Subterfuge Princess=Charm etc.
Can any Agent type get a base probability in ANY Effect?
Example: A Princess can use Influence AND Charm, but can she also use Subterfuge?
If that is a limitation then where is THAT governed?
If it is in export_descr_character_traits.txt then I'm not reading it right....

I thought perhaps changing the 'actions' line in the characters.txt but not sure if that'd function, or how to test it....

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

type named character
actions moving_normal, moving_quickmarch, garrison, assault, attack, besiege, entrench, ambush, diplomacy, exchange, building_fort, building_watchtower

type general
actions moving_normal, moving_quickmarch, garrison, assault, attack, besiege, entrench, ambush, exchange

type spy
actions moving_normal, spying

type assassin
actions moving_normal, assassinate, sabotage

type diplomat
actions moving_normal, moving_quickmarch, diplomacy

type admiral
actions moving_normal, quick_sail, blockade, disembark, exchange

type princess
actions moving_normal, diplomacy, marry

type merchant
actions moving_normal, acquire

type priest
actions moving_normal, denounce

The goal of all this being to create a different Agent type with a new mix of abilities.

[valvegas1]

The goal of all this being to create a different Agent type with a new mix of abilities.

Unfortunatly it is not possible to change agents abilities....abilities cannot be added (they can be removed without any issues)....Unfortunately advances in this area are very limited due to various hardcoding issues with making changes to agents....You could create a new agent but I'm afraid you just can't mix abilities...

[Live2sculpt]

Unfortunatly it is not possible to change agents abilities....abilities cannot be added (they can be removed without any issues)....Unfortunately advances in this area are very limited due to various hardcoding issues with making changes to agents....You could create a new agent but I'm afraid you just can't mix abilities...

Well that's not so bad, as my ambitions are modest. I'm seeking to make a Steward Agent that could help to keep a settlement from descending into chaos whenever a leader character is not in town.

But I still need to understand exactly what sets of abilities rest with which agents in order to begin that process.

Is my list from characters.txt giving the correct indications that I need to go forward?
Is there a thread showing someone else's modest success in this same type of endeavor?

[Ishan]

There is first the hardcoded limit of 12 agent types.

1. Spy
2. Assassin
3. Witch
4. Heretic
5. Merchant
6. Inquisitor
7. Princess
8. General
9. Imam
10. Diplomat
11. Admiral
12. Priest

Then there abilities are also agent dependent and won't work on another type.
So this leaves you to use only Heretic & Inquistor type. In Bellum Crucis mod for example they have used them for Alchemist (Heretic) & Inquisitor (Anti-Pope).

[Live2sculpt]

There is first the hardcoded limit of 12 agent types.

1. Spy
2. Assassin
3. Witch
4. Heretic
5. Merchant
6. Inquisitor
7. Princess
8. General
9. Imam
10. Diplomat
11. Admiral
12. Priest

Then there abilities are also agent dependent and won't work on another type.
So this leaves you to use only Heretic & Inquistor type. In Bellum Crucis mod for example they have used them for Alchemist (Heretic) & Inquisitor (Anti-Pope).

Proposition:
Witch or Heretic-
Neutralize all but their Public Disorder ability(*?)
Reverse the Public Disorder modifier value
Swap out the voice for a more suitable selection
Swap out the model for a more suitable selection
Modify related export name and event text
Disable the vanilla spawn script (*?)
Add to recruit pool for selected building(s) in EDB (*?)

What problems are in this proposition so I might just forget about it?

[Ishan]

Inquisitor and heretic can't be recruited through EDB iirc but witch can be recruited. So use that.
You have to change its default strat map animations, voice type, text entries like expanded.txt, unit description etc, remove any traits & ancs to kill the effects it has on region\characters. Cut the default generation of them from the descr_campaign_db.xml file etc. Plus many things that i can't remember but these are the ones that you have to start with imo.

[Live2sculpt]

Inquisitor and heretic can't be recruited through EDB iirc but witch can be recruited. So use that.
You have to change its default strat map animations, voice type, text entries like expanded.txt, unit description etc, remove any traits & ancs to kill the effects it has on region\characters. Cut the default generation of them from the descr_campaign_db.xml file etc. Plus many things that i can't remember but these are the ones that you have to start with imo.

The points I added question marks to are the only ones I don't have experience in.
Now you have let me know where I can go to redact out the witch spawning info. Thanks.

But I still don't know exactly how to directly edit/manage the witch abilities; to neutralize any of her other abilities and reverse her Public Order affecting ability to cause a positive effect.

The only solution I know how to do would involve making hidden traits and counter-traits, and that idea is STILL half baked until I know where those exact abilities are governed.

@Irishron Thanks, I haven't looked through the Docudemons in a while. I snagged GED's copy and will look through it for a refresher. Perhaps the answer to these remaining questions is in there?

@Ishan If you should remember any other things that must be modified please write back. It could save me some trouble since I now seem on my way to trying.

[Live2sculpt]

I've never investigated Witches abilities before
Magic and Wrath.
Humph...
I haven't deduced exactly how these Magic or Wrath abilities function, but so far it seems like they can't have any effect on Settlements. They appear to be directed only at adding new traits to other characters.
Also, their third ability, to spread heresy, appears to be hardcoded, since there are no Piety values listed anywhere.

Furthermore, so long as I can't draw a connection between an Assassins Subterfuge ability and how it Affects Public order, much less how to separate out the Assassins other hardcoded behaviors, I will have to drop this plan for a Settlement overseer type of Agent.

Thanks for your time guys.