I've been thinking

**Xiaodun** · May 15, 2006, 08:42 AM

Does the add-on of the American continent (continents, whatever) mean that they are going to put in the entire Atlantic Ocean in the map? Or would they make some sort of iffy teleportation thingy?

If CA is going to waste space on a whole lot of sea (even if they weren't going to really), I would rather see a whole lot more of Central Asia and maybe even Western China. So that the Mongols don't appear out of thin air this time.

**Spiff** · May 15, 2006, 08:44 AM

Hard to say at the moment, though i suspect theyll come up with some device to ensure half of the minimap isnt just covered in ocean

**Sitarus Originalus PM-30+** · May 15, 2006, 08:57 AM

i hope it is ocean... afterall i want MTW2 to be as realistic as possible. teleportation thing? ... hope not!

**Logue** · May 15, 2006, 09:22 AM

Either that or the movement points in that area of water will be reduced.

**Ringeck** · May 15, 2006, 09:22 AM

Lots of space for modders if they include an ocean....

**Charok** · May 15, 2006, 07:56 PM

If you don't want to see a big, lonely ocean, then get someone to add a new continent called "Atlantis" in there and you can fight a prehistoric civilization (with laser technology) as you make your way to an America filled with gold and llamas.

**lightbringer418** · May 15, 2006, 09:23 PM

Considering they really didn't know the size and shape of the ocean back then, it probably wont be added. CA will think of something, like a big black space, or they will just have a "Travel to New World" type of button and in a few turns they show up and theres a new map to go to.

And mabye im mistaken but I didn't see a Mongol or Golden Horde faction in the list.... :/:/:/:/

**Scarlett Letterman** · May 15, 2006, 09:33 PM

Originally Posted by lightbringer418

Considering they really didn't know the size and shape of the ocean back then, it probably wont be added. CA will think of something, like a big black space, or they will just have a "Travel to New World" type of button and in a few turns they show up and theres a new map to go to.

And mabye im mistaken but I didn't see a Mongol or Golden Horde faction in the list.... :/:/:/:/

They didnt know the size and shape of a lot of things back then but we don't teleport across russia or africa.

**God-Emperor of Mankind** · May 17, 2006, 09:09 AM

Originally Posted by lightbringer418

Considering they really didn't know the size and shape of the ocean back then, it probably wont be added. CA will think of something, like a big black space, or they will just have a "Travel to New World" type of button and in a few turns they show up and theres a new map to go to.

Nope, CA has already stated that the new world will be on the same map.
The new world will most likely be covered and then when you get the right ships you can "discover" it.
I hope the journey will be both long and dangerous, to prevent huge armies from landning in America.

**HorseArcher** · May 17, 2006, 12:30 PM

one guy from the E3 said, that the new world is represented by a small land-strip on one side of the map. So basically, you won't have the whole 'americas' but sort of a beachline.

**iKossu** · May 18, 2006, 04:10 AM

Originally Posted by Xiaodun

Does the add-on of the American continent (continents, whatever) mean that they are going to put in the entire Atlantic Ocean in the map? Or would they make some sort of iffy teleportation thingy?

You're not the only one who has been wondering this issue but I have a strong feeling that there will be no teleportation.

Originally Posted by TB666

Nope, CA has already stated that the new world will be on the same map.
The new world will most likely be covered and then when you get the right ships you can "discover" it.
I hope the journey will be both long and dangerous, to prevent huge armies from landning in America.

I hadn't heard about that. I always thought that they won't be in the same map since Atlantic is quite big. I guess they have come up with something to prevent too early invasion of America. I guess that it's the same other way around too: they'll have to prevent too early invasion of Europe as well. Actually, Indians just might not have been able to invade Europe since they had no decent naval vessels. Well see how this is done in M2TW.

**John Wayne** · May 15, 2006, 09:31 PM

Then one can get modded in. Same goes for the giant ocean, modders can fix our problems like that *snaps fingers*. So no worries!

**Zarekk** · May 16, 2006, 05:39 PM

I wonder how many game turns it will take a boat to sail from England to the New World?

**Sitarus Originalus PM-30+** · May 18, 2006, 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by Zarekk

I wonder how many game turns it will take a boat to sail from England to the New World?

i read somewhere it took 2-3 months for Columbus to sail to New World. in game that would make 1/2 of the turn? lol... i think about 6-7 is just right, too much would make it borring, and too close would make it too easy.

**John Wayne** · May 16, 2006, 08:11 PM

A lot. It IS a big ocean after all, so I'm guessing more than 10...maybe.

**Shazbot** · May 16, 2006, 09:50 PM

I think ten is a bit much, I believe between 5 and 8 would be more appropriet.

**~~Atheist Peace~~** · May 16, 2006, 09:56 PM

There better be an accurate amount of space taking up the Atlantic Ocean. I don't care how big it is, they need to be accurate, I don't want the continents to be 20 miles from each other. I can't buy the game anyway though, because they decided to remove years from the game, making it completely unrelated to history.

**Spiff** · May 17, 2006, 09:01 AM

Its not meant to be a historical tour, its just a 'what if' scenario created by the player from a set starting point. Besides im sure it will be able to be modded easily enough