Artifex Act

[Garbarsardar]

artifex -ficis m. As adj.: act. , [skilled, clever]; pass., [skillfully made]. As subst., [worker, craftsman, maker, creator, expert].

Proposed by:Garbarsardar
Drafted by:Garbarsardar
Supported by: Archer, Asterix, Lusted

Artifex Act

To qualify as Artifex, the nominee must meet the following Criteria:

• Served the Total War Center or Total War Community with significant input in any community board in any capacity other than staff.

• The nominee must be seconded by a Magistrate or Opifex before it can go to a vote. Vote shall be refused to any user who fails the criteria for citizenship with regard to warnings and post count.

Qualifying nominees shall be voted upon in the Curia for a period of one week, and a majority will be sufficient to decorate a user as an Artifex. A user who passes the vote shall be awarded the rank of 'Artifex' . A nominee who fails to achieve a majority is eligible to be nominated again after a three month period.

[Kagemusha]

Im sorry,but im not either convinced yet.It sounds awfully like labeling people as second rate modders.

[Garbarsardar]

So why should someone strive for Artifex and not Opifex? I dont see the need for another rank when theyre both essentialy the same. The Opifex reward is pretty clear cut and only for the finest contributions, why cheapen it with a half way there stage? Why not create another rank after this for anyone whos ever modded a text file in the game..?

I think that the Opifex should be for the highest level of contribuition. In reality civitates title is awarded to people mainly for their performance in the CC fora. Decreasing the requirments for Opifex that would be cheapening.

The new award is for members who:
a.participate in the TW community
b.Do not fulfill the very high requirments for the Opifex award.

[Halie Satanus]

Most modders if put up for patronisation would fail on the criteria, but does that "cheapen" their contribution. i for one think not, why should someone strive for Artifex and not Opifex, because the standard of Opifex is extremly high as it should be, and so we should have Artifex, hopefully this rank would encourage people to raise themselves to Opifex, and at least be some reward on what is a very long road. for a while now the modding community has been thinning out, this would go a long way to reversing that trend.

[PROMETHEUS ts]

As I said , there isnt a need for an artifex rank to me , but in case it should qualify all modders I think , and between them the Opifex should be granted only to special occasions ....

[Garbarsardar]

As I said , there isnt a need for an artifex rank to me , but in case it should qualify all modders I think , and between them the Opifex should be granted only to special occasions ....

That exactly is the purpose of this bill. And it includes not only modders but any contributor in the TW community. I agree that it would be unwise, retrospectively to lower the standard for the Opifex award, but at the same time it would be nice to show the respect and gratitude of the community to all these "young" people who don't have the debating skills for (or are not interested in) civitateship.

[spirit_of_rob]

hmmm.. although i can see ur point prom i dont agree with it. I think its good to show acknowledgement of peoples achievements.

[Halie Satanus]

Should this bill not pass, in about six months time when many mods will compleated, i for one will be proposing Opifex awards every single day, my poor fingers will type in a fury until every single modder has an Opifex badge, and that would perhaps dilute the title which is something no one wants, for who here is qualified to judge any modders contribution over another, at least with Artifex we would be able to say with pride that this site honours modders who contribute to it. mod teams are made up of many different parts are we only going to award certain members of teams and ignore others. i think that would reflect poorly to new members.

[the Black Prince]

i don't agree with this bill, i don't agree with giving special awards to a sdingle group of people like this. it merely alienates a large proportion of the rest of this sites membership... i totally fail to see why modders should get special privildiges, i mean, we already host their mods, and are very very lenient when it comes to enforcing the site rules in the modding areas...

we ALREADY reward modders both with citizenship of the forum, AND with Opifex AND with annual site awards... what more do we need to give them? how about paying a little attention to the large percentage of the sites membership who AREN'T modders.

as i recall, the Opifex reward was opened to non modders, such as sig designers and other special contributors, i believe that is why Lord Rahl is an Opifex.
i would support this bill on condition that is also opened to non modders, and made available as a reward to all members who make some sort of special contribution, thats less thasn the Opifex criteria, and also less than the "signifcant contribution" criteria that qualifies for civitateship

[Halie Satanus]

i don't agree with this bill, i don't agree with giving special awards to a sdingle group of people like this. it merely alienates a large proportion of the rest of this sites membership...

I think thats a very good reason why we should! have Artifex. to stop the alienation a large proportion of the site.

i totally fail to see why modders should get special privildiges,

Then please take a little time to visit the modders threads, perhaps then you'll see the huge amount of effort thats going on without recognition from the Curia. There are no "special privilages" just a badge and a thank you.

[Muizer]

The qualifiquations for the Opifex title, include civitateship

No they don't.

[Garbarsardar]

Sorry bad editing:

The Opifex title awards civitateship, and the qualifications should not be lowered after the title has been awarded to our members.

Although I disagree with your estimate about the importance of the modding community, and sorry to tell you it lacks foresight tBP, the title is open to any member contribuiting in the TW fora, not only modders. Please read it again.

[PROMETHEUS ts]

That exactly is the purpose of this bill. And it includes not only modders but any contributor in the TW community. I agree that it would be unwise, retrospectively to lower the standard for the Opifex award, but at the same time it would be nice to show the respect and gratitude of the community to all these "young" people who don't have the debating skills for (or are not interested in) civitateship.

Well if it is intended then as I wrote I tend to agree , but The problem is that the rank giving should be strictly meeting the conditions , about the modders importance ....
I think that modders are the basement of a interest in a game that for reason of time it would fade aways , modders can keep the interest high and deserve special consideration becouse they involve so much of their free time to improve something and to show to others and give to others what they do for free ....
I think modders all from the most unexpert to the best one should be granted a special big thankyou , if was not , only for the time they sacrify from their RL to please many around who do not even approach modification editing but enjoy as well those add ons ....

BTW Webbird should not get Artifex but Opifex , He contribuited a lot , his skins are all around the mods , and he also made some special textures to be used by other modders , this qualifies him over the normal modders ....and is thank to him that I discovered the Alpha Channel ^^ ...also , Opifex should be very restricted in giving , should be a qualification that only few should be granted , this is also to spin the normal modders to improve their abilities and one day become Opifex ^^ ...

[Garbarsardar]

I'm totally with you on all this Prometheus (still Ts?). That is why the candidates will be voted by the Curia.

[rez]

If you want to open this to every contributing member its just going to be a lower grade of civitates.

this is a thankyou that many people out there deserve. Many people (especially coders) who get no recognition from the majority of the boards because of the nature of their work or because it is overshadowed by the huge mods deserve praise to let them know we really do appreciate them.

[PROMETHEUS ts]

Coders are modders as well ....

[Kagemusha]

I still dont like this bill.And i agree with Prom. For example lets look for example EB. Should they be Artifex becouse they are so tough bunch that single modder doesnt stand up?I think the problem is that we are so worried about inflation of Opifex that there are many modders that have not even proposed as Opifex.

[Basileos Leandros I]

It's basically an award for lesser modders, who aren't geniuses in modding.

[Kagemusha]

It's basically an award for lesser modders, who aren't geniuses in modding.

So who are these people Edyz? Would you decide that or i?This is bad law categorizing people.Should we also give different people different ranks that come from Thema Devia,some are good debators and some are not. I believe many modders wouldnt be very honoured by how Curia elects them as second rate modders.

[Garbarsardar]

Im sorry,but im not either convinced yet.It sounds awfully like labeling people as second rate modders.

I believe many modders wouldnt be very honoured by how Curia elects them as second rate modders.

Sorry Kagemusha but you inserted the term "second rate modders" in this thread and and you are just recycling it. Nobody talks about this but you, as if repetitition will somehow validate your interpretation.

This is an award for members coming from the TW fora, who do not qualify, or do not qualify yet for the title of Opifex. They are not "lesser" moders just as a civitates is not a lesser patrician and we are not all "lesser Divii". This bill is supported by three modders or contributors in the TW fora at least (Archer,Asterix,Lusted). To my knowledge no modder considers an award demeaning

I think that modders are the basement of a interest in a game that for reason of time it would fade aways , modders can keep the interest high and deserve special consideration becouse they involve so much of their free time to improve something and to show to others and give to others what they do for free ....
I think modders all from the most unexpert to the best one should be granted a special big thankyou , if was not , only for the time they sacrify from their RL to please many around who do not even approach modification editing but enjoy as well those add ons ....

I have contacted many members of the modding coding etc communities and they ar rather enthusiastic about this award. If you have any evidence that it is otherwise please inform me and I will scrap this bill.

Everyone here recognizes that the qualifications for the Opifex award are prohibitively high for many members of the TW community. That does not mean neither that these members are inferior (merely on their way up) nor that a sign of encouragement and respect to their efforts should not be given.