Just what we don't need...another Bush presidency

[Red Harvest]

I've been expecting this for awhile. Dubya says brother Jeb would make an "awfully good" president. Well "awful" does come to mind.

We've had two Bushes so far, and nothing good to show for them. I can't imagine much worse than having another Bush become president. Of course, after being endorsed by Dubya, his chances have sunk considerably.

If this office is going to become some sort of hereditary thing then I'm going to move to some country with a working democracy. DOWN WITH THE MONARCHY!!!

[Sidmen]

Liar!!!!

George W. Bush said his brother would make a "Great President"
George Bush said his son would be an "awfully good president"

Get your facts straight... Anyway, it will be at least 2-3 terms before we can expect him to run, that way a bad democrat and even worse Republican can win before hand and we can get the bad taste of Bush out of our mouths.

[Red Harvest]

Liar!!!!

Take your ritalin. Attributing to the wrong Bush doesn't make me a "liar" it was a simple oversight due to interruption while reading.

Doesn't change the point: we don't need an aristocracy, particularly one of incompetents.

[Sétanta]

If he was elected president than it would be the choice of the American people, not anybody else. If people hate Bush so much then why did they vote for him?

If he runs I will look at his campaign and beliefs, not his brother or father.

[Red Harvest]

If he was elected president than it would be the choice of the American people, not anybody else. If people hate Bush so much then why did they vote for him?

That's an easy one, they didn't in 2000. Dubya lost the popular vote in the first election, and he lost the popular vote in Florida. He was awarded a win because of the incompetence of his brother's state in conducting proper balloting, with a bit of help from the Supremes. (Unlike 99.999% of the people who have commented on Florida, I actually went through the county-by-county stats to determine whether or not a flawed ballot was to blame. After crunching the numbers there was zero doubt of "voter intent." It essentially became a disenfranchisement of urban Florida voters. The proper thing to do would have been to throw out Florida's electoral college vote, or apportion it--that is if one wanted a *representative* election.)

As for 2004, Osama got Dubya re-elected. That was what the election was run on, scare tactics. It is unfortunate that my fellow Americans were so misguided in their priorities and were utterly unable to judge the competence of the current commander-in-chief to fulfill his mission.

EDIT: Just wanted to add that it is extremely ironic that Dubya was elected by accident (voter error/ballot problems.) His election was a mistake in more ways than one. :laughing:

[mongoose]

America is slowly becoming an oligarchy. Right now, having a family member in politics is only an aid, but I predict that it will become a sort of unwritten requirement in the future.

[Legio XX Valeria Victrix]

As for 2004, Osama got Dubya re-elected. That was what the election was run on, scare tactics. It is unfortunate that my fellow Americans were so misguided in their priorities and were utterly unable to judge the competence of the current commander-in-chief to fulfill his mission.

Don't forget Karl Rove's nifty/devious plot of having the anti-gay marriage proposals on the ballots in many key states. It's numerically unquestionable that it got evangelical Christians out to the polls in larger numbers than ever before, and just as unquestionable that evangelical Christians in almost all instances vote Republican, especially in Bush's case (since he's one of them).

This had no small part in winning Ohio at least for Bush, and thus the election.

[IamthePope]

As for 2004, Osama got Dubya re-elected. That was what the election was run on, scare tactics. It is unfortunate that my fellow Americans were so misguided in their priorities and were utterly unable to judge the competence of the current commander-in-chief to fulfill his mission.

Can you say "revisionist history"? George Bush was re-elected in 2004 cause he was the superior debater, more likeable, had a better organised campaign, a more coherent agenda, and the incumbency. Plus he just Awesome in more ways than one. If it were possible, I'd support George Bush for a third term (we tried that with Reagan and it didn't work).

If he runs I will look at his campaign and beliefs, not his brother or father.

Thanks Mudd. Jeb Bush is neither his father, nor is he his brother. He should be judged on his own merits (which are many) and not on the legacy of his relatives.

America is slowly becoming an oligarchy. Right now, having a family member in politics is only an aid, but I predict that it will become a sort of unwritten requirement in the future.

We can only hope for an American Monarchy :original:

[Hub'ite]

Take your ritalin. Attributing to the wrong Bush doesn't make me a "liar" it was a simple oversight due to interruption while reading.

Doesn't change the point: we don't need an aristocracy, particularly one of incompetents.

Making a big deal out of nothing. No one will elect another Bush onto office. Now Legio XX you can stay.

[Last Roman]

we need to get rid of these dynasties. No Bush or Clinton in '08!

[Sidmen]

You can't realy call 12 years a dynasty, even if jeb was elected for 2 terms it would be only 20 years that the bush's have held the presidency, no where near a dynasty. Same thing with the clintons. Although I'd prefer someone qualified this time.

Perhaps an experienced administrator and general, perhaps even a family man... That would be a good president, the only other quality you'd need is: skilled in diplomacy and you'd have got the best president in the world...

[Farnan]

You can't realy call 12 years a dynasty, even if jeb was elected for 2 terms it would be only 20 years that the bush's have held the presidency, no where near a dynasty. Same thing with the clintons. Although I'd prefer someone qualified this time.

Perhaps an experienced administrator and general, perhaps even a family man... That would be a good president, the only other quality you'd need is: skilled in diplomacy and you'd have got the best president in the world...

How about this guy? Yea, he wasn't a general, only a staff Seargent.

[PyrrhusIV]

I've been expecting this for awhile. Dubya says brother Jeb would make an "awfully good" president. Well "awful" does come to mind.

We've had two Bushes so far, and nothing good to show for them. I can't imagine much worse than having another Bush become president. Of course, after being endorsed by Dubya, his chances have sunk considerably.

If this office is going to become some sort of hereditary thing then I'm going to move to some country with a working democracy. DOWN WITH THE MONARCHY!!!

I wonder, why does everyone say Dubya?

What was wrong with the First bush?

[Ahiga]

I wonder, why does everyone say Dubya?

What was wrong with the First bush?

I liked him until I found a quote of his wondering if Atheist's should be given the right of citizenship or even be treated fairly.

Besides that, I don't know if he was really -terrible-.

[Legio XX Valeria Victrix]

You can't realy call 12 years a dynasty, even if jeb was elected for 2 terms it would be only 20 years that the bush's have held the presidency, no where near a dynasty. Same thing with the clintons. Although I'd prefer someone qualified this time.

Perhaps an experienced administrator and general, perhaps even a family man... That would be a good president, the only other quality you'd need is: skilled in diplomacy and you'd have got the best president in the world...

Uh, this is a republic, not a monarchy. This is twelve years of Bush's so far, and I'd say it's perilously close to becoming a dynasty. As far as the US government goes, there's only been one other father/son Presidencies: John Adams and John Quincy Adams.

If Jeb Bush runs and wins, I move to Canada. And I am not kidding.

[Boudicca]

Does America not have people qualified enough to become a president? Why does it always have to be a few families...I think so many people would make better presidents.

[HorseArcher]

Does America not have people qualified enough to become a president? Why does it always have to be a few families...I think so many people would make better presidents.

Because i really beleive that the US presidents are nothing more than puppets lately. They have been pre-selected and you can have the best candidate with the best mind, they can't be presidents if it doesn't suits the "master of puppets".

[Gaius Baltar]

A lot of these arguements would also apply to Hillary Clinton (the other Clinton, the cute one). There should be a law that only 1 person from a family can serve within a 10 year span, or make that 25.

We should also be able to call for a vote of confidence, like in Israel.

[Richard the Lionheart]

Does America not have people qualified enough to become a president? Why does it always have to be a few families...I think so many people would make better presidents.

What was that quote that said something along the lines of ..."Those who are intelligent and don't rule the government are punished by being ruled by those who are dumb." :laughing:

I don't remember the exact quote, I think it was Cicero that said it.

[Tom Paine]

Does America not have people qualified enough to become a president? Why does it always have to be a few families...I think so many people would make better presidents.

Pertinent question. Same reason only certain types of people, with a notable exception or two, have become PM; they have the capital to put up for the Presidency, they have a known name an thus campaigning is made easier, and they able to quote the previous incumbent from the dynasty (length of time doesn't matter, only number of rulers... 3 Bushes is a dynasty) as having done a great job as a reason to show they would too.