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    Default Should mathematics be taught in schools?

    Mathematics has gone hand in hand with schooling since time immemorial. I'm sure that the curriculum for stone age students placed "Sand and Stick Addition" next to "Hunting or Gathering: Feminism in the Modern Age." But, like chocolate and peanut butter, math and school together have a tendency to get stuck in your teeth. It's not the easiest subject to learn. It's largely dense and uninteresting, and the intermingling of letters, numbers, and symbols in its more advanced subjects are confusing and an aesthetic nightmare.

    I've heard the argument that math is integral to a successful future, but in practice, this is largely false. It's entirely possible to earn a healthy living wage with no knowledge of math whatsoever. Anyone working the deep fryer at your local fast food restaurant can tell you that they can afford the cost of living with even a few dollars left over for frivolous expenses.

    Secondly, The field of Mathematics has led to a nigh-infinite number of many villainous, vile, and just plain unpleasant inventions. It would take the power of three men just to list them, but I'll attempt:

    1. The Cotton Gin: Eli Whitney used engineering, the bastard son of mathematics, to invent this machine that made cotton harvesting more efficient in the south. The consequence? It also prolonged and encouraged slavery and racism. Would you rather have cheap and efficient cotton shirts, or an America free of involuntary servitude? I thought so.

    2. Newton's Theory of Gravity: Newton, known in some circles as "The Sodomizer of Satan", used mathematics to concoct some phony baloney about physics and gravity, myths that are only now being reversed by modern pioneers like Pat Robertson.

    3. Nazism: Hitler used mathematics to push forward his theories of racial supremacy. I'm sure you're all aware of Hitler's First Theory of Raceonomics, but just for posterity's sake I'll reproduce it:
    Germany - (Jews*Gypsies*Cripples) + Aryans = Master Race

    4: Enron: Kenneth Lay used math to manipulate the stock market and con its stock holders out of millions and millions of dollars. If math can lead to horror on this scale in the hands of a mere corporate executive, imagine what can happen if an evil genius gets his hands on it!

    This list has already become vastly redundant, so I'll spare you, even though I could easily go on.

    Finally, Teaching math as a required subject takes away from other subjects that are equally, if not more, important . Why are our children forced to take years and years of this subject, while others are left wanting? Why are classes like Life Management and Home Economics largely ignored? "Sure, I've mastered Boolean algebra, but how will I ever learn to balance a checkbook or be a good mommy?" is the cry of thousands of adolescents in schools today.

    So I ask you, should mathematics be taught in schools? What do you guys think?
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    Uhh yeah...

    Where else would it be taught. Many many people need math for their jobs. Sure some of it is completely useless but you never know. Everything around you was built with the help of math in some way or another. Math isn't just about 2x-4ac+156.
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    You sir, you win!
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    Default Re: Should mathematics be taught in schools?

    Why yes it should.

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    i'll thrid the notion that it should
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    "2. Newton's Theory of Gravity: Newton, known in some circles as "The Sodomizer of Satan", used mathematics to concoct some phony baloney about physics and gravity, myths that are only now being reversed by modern pioneers like Pat Robertson."
    Please please please please please please go into more detail here. I want to know exactly what this means

    Also yes maths should be taught in schools, im fairly sure knowing how to count could be quite useful - for instance when i give dangerous dave that Ł20 note for his sack of german pornography i want to make sure i get the full Ł5 change back i deserve

    Edit: oh and as a Mcdonalds employee i should add that rudimentary maths is needed in the kitchen and anyone that can survive on that pay full time and be happy is living a horrifying life
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    The word "unnatural" is being thrown around alot lately. Of course math isn't "natural." Its man-made. That doesn't mean it shouldn't be taught in school. Imagine the world without math, utter chaos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hub'ite
    The word "unnatural" is being thrown around alot lately. Of course math isn't "natural." Its man-made. That doesn't mean it shouldn't be taught in school. Imagine the world without math, utter chaos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris
    Simplicity alert!
    What can I say? I'm a simple man.

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    must....not....flame....

    ok, [basic] math is necessary, even if you don't like it (like me). Everyday stuff like keeping count of your finances, which is pretty important. Sciences use math all the time (like physics and the such). In conclusion, teaching math in school in necessary.
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    Awesome...

    News:
    This thread is not really about mathematics and school... it's about sarcasm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris
    This thread is not really about mathematics and school... it's about sarcasm.
    no, I think evariste is serious...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Roman
    no, I think evariste is serious...
    I think you are sarcastic too huh?

    Quote Originally Posted by evariste
    Nazism: Hitler used mathematics to push forward his theories of racial supremacy. I'm sure you're all aware of Hitler's First Theory of Raceonomics, but just for posterity's sake I'll reproduce it:
    Germany - (Jews*Gypsies*Cripples) + Aryans = Master Race
    Tell me in all honesty you believe this is serious
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris
    I think you are sarcastic too huh?
    I'm also being serious as is evariste

    see here:

    Quote Originally Posted by evariste
    Because it's a serious issue that involves politics and will undoubtedly provoke debate. Where else does it belong?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hub'ite
    utter chaos.
    Oh, but chaos is so fun...

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris
    Name me ONE other specie who uses maths.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evariste
    imagine what can happen if an evil genius gets his hands on it!
    Methinks math is my favorite subject...

    Quote Originally Posted by Evariste
    Would you rather have cheap and efficient cotton shirts, or an America free of involuntary servitude?
    I dunno. I'm a man who like his cotton, and at such cheap prices with large quantities incase one shirt gets damaged...hmmm....that's a toughie

    Quote Originally Posted by Last Roman
    no, I think evariste is serious...
    You mean he's actually bloody serious that the theory of gravity is wrong?
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    Default Re: Should mathematics be taught in schools?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hub'ite
    And spam. Why is it in the pit?
    Because it's a serious issue that involves politics and will undoubtedly provoke debate. Where else does it belong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evariste
    Because it's a serious issue that involves politics and will undoubtedly provoke debate. Where else does it belong?
    How so? Without math there would be utter chaos. We wouldn't even be using these computers right now. We couldn't even go to McD's and get a Fat Mac. We couldn't do 90% of what we do now without math.

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    Umm... The first post is satirical, which is kind of obvious if you hadn't noticed. He took examples of math being used towards bad means (except the Newton part) as people make examples of religion using people who use it towards bad means. He is saying, in a Horation way, that religion is as vital as math in school.
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    It took you lot way too long to realise that it's a joke.





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    Quote Originally Posted by RusskiSoldat
    It took you lot way too long to realise that it's a joke.
    Its not a joke, it is satire. They are sometimes the same, but many people use satire as a way to present their issue. Look at Swift as an example.
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