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    Default So what do Chavez fans think of this?

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...d/3845708.html

    "Speaking at a stadium packed with supporters in central Lara state, Chavez said he would hold a referendum to put the question of his remaining in office to Venezuelans if the opposition pulls out of upcoming presidential elections.

    "I am going to ask you, all the people, if you agree with Chavez being president until 2031," he said."

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    Sounds like Chavez is making a power play, he knows he is assured victory in this relection and he appears to be willing to use that to remove that minor detail of term limits for the future. If the opposition knowing they cant win run in the election and get destroyed (as expected by him) he can use that as a mandate to remove the limits during his new term and if they dont run he'll use it as an excuse to put this up for vote either way he gets what he wants, to lead Venuzula til he drops dead. Kindler, gentler dictatorship I guess

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    I think that if venezuelians vote yes to this, they are stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris
    I think that if venezuelians vote yes to this, they are stupid.
    You got it! Venezuelans are very stupid... I'll rephrase it... humans are very stupid. I am a "Venezuelan", and I can say that this statement is as true to Venezuelans as it is to anyone else. Venezuelans, like Germans in 1933, or Italians in 1919, or Spaniards and Americans in 2004, are very, very stupid. I'm ashamed to include myself with the animals that we are. Milgram shames us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siblesz
    You got it! Venezuelans are very stupid... I'll rephrase it... humans are very stupid. I am a "Venezuelan", and I can say that this statement is as true to Venezuelans as it is to anyone else. Venezuelans, like Germans in 1933, or Italians in 1919, or Spaniards and Americans in 2004, are very, very stupid. I'm ashamed to include myself with the animals that we are. Milgram shames us.
    So you aren'y optimistic then, about Chavez losing?

    And its a bit late for full support Farnan...

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    It'll be intresting to see what happens. But if he manages to pull it off, Venezula is screwed.
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    We should give our complete and utter support to him...




    ...I can't see a better way to assure that he loses the next election.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farnan
    We should give our complete and utter support to him...




    ...I can't see a better way to assure that he loses the next election.
    that would do the trick alright.
    But squeak is right.
    Its a bit late for that.

    The tax paid by foreign oil companies operating in Venezuela will be almost doubled, says President Hugo Chavez.

    On his weekly television programme Hello President,
    Mr Chavez said a new "extraction tax" of 33% would replace the current oil royalty of 17%.
    He said the levy would raise at least $885m a year, some of which would be used to fund a housing programme.
    Venezuela is the world's fifth oil exporter, and Mr Chavez has used oil income to drive his "revolution".
    "We are going to create a new oil tax, called the tax on extraction,"
    Mr Chavez told viewers of his marathon six-hour Sunday show.
    "The companies that are pumping oil in Venezuela are making a lot of money," he said.
    He said the details of the new extraction tax would be revealed in the next few days, but the figure mentioned by Mr Chavez and his oil minister is 33%.
    its intersting how Oil rich countrys keep getting into trouble with the united states.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farnan
    We should give our complete and utter support to him...




    ...I can't see a better way to assure that he loses the next election.


    Sounds like a great plan to me.

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    I resent that...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farnan
    I resent that...
    Truth hurts, does it not?

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    So you aren'y optimistic then, about Chavez losing?
    I'm at the point where I really don't care anymore. If Chavez loses, another ******* will replace him. So why care?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siblesz
    I'm at the point where I really don't care anymore. If Chavez loses, another ******* will replace him. So why care?
    That's the spirit



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    Quote Originally Posted by Erik
    That's the spirit
    I second that.


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    Americans didn't elect Bush as a president for life though, nor would they have.
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    Why is this so bad?
    The people are content with his socialist quadi dictatorship, let him make it into a full on dictatorship through popular vote.
    We elected Putin in Russia, didn't we?
    And Lukashenko over in Belarus?





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    Quote Originally Posted by RusskiSoldat
    Why is this so bad?
    The people are content with his socialist quadi dictatorship, let him make it into a full on dictatorship through popular vote.
    We elected Putin in Russia, didn't we?
    And Lukashenko over in Belarus?
    With power comes corruption.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris
    With power comes corruption.
    troll removed-Garb
    PS) Why is this "chavez" dude so dangerous?
    Last edited by Garbarsardar; May 10, 2006 at 08:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RusskiSoldat
    Why is this so bad?
    The people are content with his socialist quadi dictatorship, let him make it into a full on dictatorship through popular vote.
    We elected Putin in Russia, didn't we?
    And Lukashenko over in Belarus?
    Debatable whether Lukashenko was actually elected. And yeah as Fenris said with power come corruption, even if the figure is a noble figure (something of which Lukashenko, Chavez clearly arent) that much power is simply too much power in the hands of a single person and people who turn over that amount of power are foolish at the very best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RusskiSoldat
    Why is this so bad?
    The people are content with his socialist quadi dictatorship, let him make it into a full on dictatorship through popular vote.
    We elected Putin in Russia, didn't we?
    And Lukashenko over in Belarus?
    It's a good thing then that the people are content living poor, nasty, brutish and short lives, cuz it they won't have much choice in the matter once Chavez gets his iron grip in place (if he isn't immovable already).

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    delete this post
    Last edited by Legiondude; June 13, 2006 at 12:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legiondude
    from what i know chavez has helped the poor in venezuela, and lukashenko has given his people a better future,
    Discounting the human rights abuse, election tampering, lack of independent media, repression of opposition voice yeah...Lukashenko is surely leading his people to a better future and if they dont believe he is well they can be dealt with!

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