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    Icon5 My diplomats can't get alliances

    Which file has the property that makes the AI automatically hate you more every turn when you're on hard or very hard difficulty?

    EDIT: Found the answer. Thanks!

    However, I discovered another problem. For some reason the option to offer any other faction an alliance is not available to my diplomats.

    I have a "reliable" global reputation and try to bribe my way to "amiable" or "very good" reputation with the faction I'm trying to ally with. And yet I still don't see an option to ally. Is this a bug, or another game issue?

    I am using the most recent version of Ultimate AI.
    Last edited by Naja; December 23, 2011 at 01:34 AM.

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    Default Re: Very hard difficulty and global reputation

    descr_faction_standing.txt


    ;------------------------------------------
    Trigger 0094_Update_Hard_Difficulty
    WhenToTest FactionTurnStart
    Condition CampaignDifficulty = hard
    FactionStanding exclude_factions { } normalise -0.5 50
    ;------------------------------------------

    What this means is your standing with all factions (none excluded) at the start of every turn, is set 1/50 th of the way from your current standing to -0.5. so if you have a current faction standing of 0.5 it will drop 1/50 of a point or 0.02. If your current standing is 0.0 it will drop 1/50 of a half point, or 0.01, so it will drop less the less they like you.

    Note that faction standing ranges from 1.0(max like) to -1.0(max hate) 0.0 being completely neutral.

    edit: Just saw you were asking about Very hard, not hard Next trigger down, same thing only it's
    FactionStanding exclude_factions { } normalise -1.0 40
    wich is much more severe of a drop, if your standing is 0.5 it will drop 1/40 of 1.5 points, or 0.0375, so your new faction standing will be 0.4625 and 0.4259375 the following turn etc. Same meaning, different numbers.

    The settings for Global Reputation are the next few triggers immediately after this, but they are not affected by dificulty directly.
    Last edited by CavalryCmdr; December 22, 2011 at 10:54 AM. Reason: oops

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    Default Re: Very hard difficulty and global reputation

    Thanks.

    I'm also having an issue getting alliances. For some reason the option to offer any other faction an alliance is not available to my diplomats.

    I have a "reliable" global reputation and try to bribe my way to "amiable" or "very good" reputation with the faction I'm trying to ally with. And yet I still don't see an option to ally. Is this a bug, or another game issue?

    I am using the most recent version of Ultimate AI.

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    Default Re: My diplomats can't get alliances

    Could be a mod issue as I have no problem with it in my mod but I have not tried Ultimate AI either.

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    Default Re: My diplomats can't get alliances

    What's odd is that I was able to get alliances just fine in the beginning (for the first couple hundred turns). Now it's never available.

    Could it be because of global reputation? I noticed in the faction_standing.txt that there are a few entries that make the AI hate you as you become more powerful. I've become the biggest, richest and more powerful empire as the game progresses. Could that be the reason? If so, then why am I still encountering the difficulty if my global reputation rating is "reliable"?

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    Could it also be how many factions left alive especially in your culture?

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    Well, I'm playing as the Byzantines so I'm the only "Greek" culture. I was getting alliances with northern-european and southern-european cultures pretty easily in the beginning of the game.

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    Default Re: My diplomats can't get alliances

    At war with any of them?

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    Default Re: My diplomats can't get alliances

    could be cause you at war with an ally of the person your are contacting with your diplomat...if thats the case then you won't have the option of allying with them....i'm not sure if this is directly related to UltimateAI but I've noticed this to be the case whenever i have used UltimateAI...

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    Default Re: My diplomats can't get alliances

    Not all of them. Some are neutral, and I still can't offer an alliance.

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    Default Re: My diplomats can't get alliances

    Does having a vassal give you the same reputation bonus as having an ally?

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    Default Re: My diplomats can't get alliances

    I think I read in Medieval2, vassal is actually broken acts as an alliance. Anyone knows better, jump in.

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    I think CA's idea for vassals was to make the vassal contribute a percentage of there income the their "overlord" when in reality it only happens in the first turn after it's established....after that they are pretty much the same as an ally with military access...as far as being able to give them orders and rule them as you should be able to, this is the part that is broken...the best workaround i have found is to script it so that when a faction accepts the vassalage the overlord takes possession of all there land and armies...

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    Default Re: My diplomats can't get alliances

    I found this entry in my descr_faction_standing.txt. This is for Ultimate AI, and it basically makes the AI hate you the more powerful you become:

    Trigger 0086_Update_Tall_Poppy1
    WhenToTest FactionTurnStart

    Condition FactionHasRank
    and FactionScorePercent overall > 90
    and FactionScoreRank overall <= 1

    FactionStanding exclude_factions { } normalise -1.0 120



    Is there a way to make this only apply to AI factions (and not the human player)? Would I add under the conditions section, "and IsFactionAIControlled" ? Or is there another script I need to use?

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    Default Re: My diplomats can't get alliances

    just changing this will work i think

    Trigger 0086_Update_Tall_Poppy1
    WhenToTest FactionTurnStart

    Condition FactionHasRank
    and FactionScorePercent overall > 90
    and FactionScoreRank overall <= 1

    FactionStanding exclude_factions { insertyourfactionnamehere } normalise -1.0 120

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    Default Re: My diplomats can't get alliances

    Would the " and not FactionIsLocal" line work as well, for just excluding the player's faction?

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