How to demand a settlement?

**Nereis** · December 21, 2011, 01:10 PM

I have a problem with demanding a settlement for a mission. Council of Nobles suggest me to offer a less valuable settlement, but I don't want that.

Is there any alternative way to get Caen?

**=Bright=** · December 21, 2011, 01:19 PM

Conquer it?

**Doge Domenico** · December 21, 2011, 01:23 PM

You just have to demand the settlement in the diplomacy menu. The only other alternatives are to bribe the city, or conquer it. Both however will cancel the mission however.

**Nereis** · December 22, 2011, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by Doge Domenico

You just have to demand the settlement in the diplomacy menu. The only other alternatives are to bribe the city, or conquer it. Both however will cancel the mission however.

:facepalm:

I know that.

I ask what to offer in diplomacy menu. Clearer?

**Nazgûl Killer** · December 22, 2011, 09:40 AM

Would depend on several things:
A) How many settlements the AI has left.
B) How valuable said settlement is (Buildings and income).
C) Your reputation.

According to both above mentioned variables, the value of the settlement will rise. From my experience, buying off settlements is a tedious job that should only done when extorting the other side to a ceasefire or something along those lines, otherwise you might need to offer something along the region of 80,000 florins.
The exception being article C, which will determine how willing the AI will be to sell you any settlement. Irregardless of value. The lower your reputation, the less likely you will be able to buy that settlement. Experience taught me that anything under (And including) reliable makes it impossible to buy the settlement, very reliable to trustworthy simply costs more, very trustworthy to immaculate has much reduced prices and higher willingness from the AI.

To be honest, annexing settlements isn't that value-worthy. You can easily take that settlement with much less expense.

**painter** · December 27, 2011, 06:03 PM

I'd first save the game, then open negotiations for how much it'll cost me to buy the region. First, try to improve your current relationship if it is cheap. Then haggle the price down to the minimum. Once you have the minimum, switch over to paying the liege over 20 turns. You may need to reload if the opposing diplomat finds negotiating with you to be worse than a woman haggling for a better price.

Your relationship with the opposing party is extremely important. Having the best of relationships will substantially reduce the cost of buying out a region. And it is best to do so within the first twenty turns, I think. Starting as England, I tend to buy Angers (turn 1) and Toulouse (turn 4) from the French at a price below the region's respective incomes (spread over 20 turns). This places me in a stronger position to take France and gives me early access to the Mediterranean, enabling me to strike out for the Levantines before turn 30 and prepare the Middle East to receive the Mongols with thousands of longbowmen and their stakes.

But if the opposing party has three or two regions left, they won't ever sell. Except maybe if your offer to trade territories, but I'm not sure about that.

**trustno1(2)** · December 28, 2011, 11:24 AM

I was playing as the Turks when the pope called a crusade on Jerusalem, which was owned by Egypt. Poland, Hungary, Venice, Spain, France, and HRE all joined the crusade. I offered them 4000 florins, map information, and military assistance against the above factions. They accepted and I destroyed the Crusading armies.