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    Default Rohan's route to help Gondor?

    I am trying to figure out what route rohan's army took on their way to help gondor. I know they gathered at Dunharrow(sp). Then did they travel south and then east? Or did they go north then east? Also about how far were they when aragorn left to recruit the army of the dead. I have read the books but has been years.

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    Default Re: Rohan's route to help Gondor?

    They traved east first. They passed through the Druédan forest (which is a settlement now) because the inhabitants of this forest (the Druédan) allowed them to take their forest as a shortcut. (going around this forest would have taken some extra time, obviously.

    Aragorn, Gimli and legolas however went south first, though the paths of the dead and then, with help of the Army of the Dead and the Dunedain (and I thought gondor troops as well) to capture a Corsair fleet to sail for Minas Tirith from the south)
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    Default Re: Rohan's route to help Gondor?

    Ok, so the riders traveled on the north side of the moutian range. Do you know where about Aragorn and company captured the corsairs? Near pelagir? Thanks for the info. I start wondering about things like this when im playing.

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    Default Re: Rohan's route to help Gondor?

    I believe they went on this way:
    red: rohirrim route
    blue: easterling army

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    Default Re: Rohan's route to help Gondor?

    I'm not sure about where they captured the corsair ships actually But I think it's probably somewhere west of Pelargir. Then they used the ships to get to Harlond and went foot from there. (in the books, the Army of the Dead was already gone by then btw, Aragorn lifted their curse after they had scared off the corsairs.)

    Nice visualisation btw, Killersmurf

    Edit: So as Ngugi stated: The corsair ships were at pelargir and the main reason for the Rohan army to go though Druedan forest was the army of easterlings
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    Default Re: Rohan's route to help Gondor?

    As DB say, though rohirrims problem was an Mordor/Easterling army that blocked the way northwest of MT (edit: as killers' pointed out ). They could have attacked but
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    Default Re: Rohan's route to help Gondor?

    I'm not sure about this. But i thought that Rohan indeed rode east and then through the Druédan Forest to get at Minas Tirith in time. I think they had like 12.000 men in the books.
    Aragorn, Legolas, Gimli, the sons of Elrond and the Grey Company traveled south through the paths of the dead, then on the other side he captured the ships and assembled the armies of south Gondor (i think). Then like 7.000 Gondorians went with the ships, and another 14.000 Gondorians marched on land to Minas Tirith (wtf am i saying).

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    Gondor's soldiers in Minas Tirith: 5.000
    Rohan: 6.000
    Aragon's soldiers: about 10.000, but in the book: "large and valiant army"
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    Default Re: Rohan's route to help Gondor?

    What's the reasoning for the gap in the mountains by Dunharrow on the campaign map? It feels lore-wrong to me.

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    Default Re: Rohan's route to help Gondor?

    I would assume its supposed to represent the paths of the dead which Aragorn took to get through the mountains there. That doesn't make a lot of sense to me either though, since I dont think you could take an army through there easily. Maybe there is some ai behavior that they are trying to use it to encourage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by webba84 View Post
    I would assume its supposed to represent the paths of the dead which Aragorn took to get through the mountains there. That doesn't make a lot of sense to me either though, since I dont think you could take an army through there easily. Maybe there is some ai behavior that they are trying to use it to encourage?
    That's what I assumed too (to represent the paths of the dead). I very much dislike it from a lore-POV though, so unless it's doing something amazing for AI behavior I'm inclined to mod my own map myself to get rid of it.

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    The map doesn't do tunnels. The paths of the dead are an underground passage, but so are almost all passages through the Misty Mountains, certainly the north-south connections. Moria actually starts at the fort east of Ost-in-Edhil, the city is only the very easternmost part. Compared to those, I don't really mind the Dunharrow gap. Lorewise, I'm more bothered by elves walking north-south through the Misty Mountains, particularly since the Gondor-Rohan alliance means that the gap is almost never used by armies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barsoom View Post
    The map doesn't do tunnels. The paths of the dead are an underground passage, but so are almost all passages through the Misty Mountains, certainly the north-south connections. Moria actually starts at the fort east of Ost-in-Edhil, the city is only the very easternmost part. Compared to those, I don't really mind the Dunharrow gap. Lorewise, I'm more bothered by elves walking north-south through the Misty Mountains, particularly since the Gondor-Rohan alliance means that the gap is almost never used by armies.
    I know that the map doesn't do tunnels and that the paths of the dead are underground. I guess my point was that if Aragorn is the only one able to use the path then wouldn't it just make more sense for it to not be in the game at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by daddytorgo View Post
    I know that the map doesn't do tunnels and that the paths of the dead are underground. I guess my point was that if Aragorn is the only one able to use the path then wouldn't it just make more sense for it to not be in the game at all?
    Sure, and my point is that I don't worry about it too much because hardly anyone uses it anyway. The fact that the north-south roads through the Misty Mountains are used by good factions is more immersion-breaking in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barsoom View Post
    Sure, and my point is that I don't worry about it too much because hardly anyone uses it anyway. The fact that the north-south roads through the Misty Mountains are used by good factions is more immersion-breaking in my opinion.
    Fair enough.

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