convert to pagan

[Ares O Chalkothorax]

Hello guys, is there any way to change the religion in norway?

[PerXX]

You cannot convert religion in-game.
If you're willing to fiddle around the files a bit, you can change their religion permanently there.
It's been discussed in another thread earlier: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...t=Norway+Pagan

[Ares O Chalkothorax]

if the 6.4 is installed it will work?

[Lazy]

You can change religions ingame...
There is a Lithuania change religion script somewhere... but: you have to script all possibilities! So its not like you can really choose what religion you will have... you must define it before starting the campaign and tie it to an event! Then you will be asked if you want to convert!
Another ( better ) example is from TATW where after reforging Arnor your religion is a different one! but also: that is not really an option as you have to script all possibilities before starting campaign! And the AI usually ignores stuff like that!

I wuold like the thought that Norway starts pagan and is able to change to something else after some event occurs...

[petertel123]

it would be very cool if factions could change religion
for example the byzantine empire turns catholic to receive help from the west, probably a long shot though

[Ferdiad]

it would be very cool if factions could change religion
for example the byzantine empire turns catholic to receive help from the west, probably a long shot though

As been said in the thread, not possible.

[Lazy]

As been said in the thread, not possible.

You can change religions ingame...
There is a Lithuania change religion script somewhere... but: you have to script all possibilities! So its not like you can really choose what religion you will have... you must define it before starting the campaign and tie it to an event! Then you will be asked if you want to convert!
Another ( better ) example is from TATW where after reforging Arnor your religion is a different one! but also: that is not really an option as you have to script all possibilities before starting campaign! And the AI usually ignores stuff like that!

I wuold like the thought that Norway starts pagan and is able to change to something else after some event occurs...

As been said in the thread, it is possible.

[Ferdiad]

As been said in the thread, it is possible.

He was talking about doing it ingame I assumed which is not possible.

[Ares O Chalkothorax]

As been said in the thread, it is possible.

so with norway if i destroy catholic temples and dont have a single priest and deny whatever the pope says maybe i'll convert to pagan???

[Logios]

You can change religions ingame...
There is a Lithuania change religion script somewhere... but: you have to script all possibilities! So its not like you can really choose what religion you will have... you must define it before starting the campaign and tie it to an event! Then you will be asked if you want to convert!
Another ( better ) example is from TATW where after reforging Arnor your religion is a different one! but also: that is not really an option as you have to script all possibilities before starting campaign! And the AI usually ignores stuff like that!

I wuold like the thought that Norway starts pagan and is able to change to something else after some event occurs...

Are you sure that can happen in SS and not only in the vanilla MTW teutonic campaign.

[Lazy]

Only if you script it... but yes it is possible!
But you have to do some work... I suggest you think about how much work you want to put in this as this changing-religion-ingame is not that easy to script!
...and if you will change it to pagan anyway its much easier to change it permanently to pagan from the beginning!
3 files to be changed:

You only have to edit three files to change a faction's religion to an already existing religion. In SS/data/descr_sm_factions.txt find the faction that you want to change and change their religion like this:

faction                        denmark
culture                        northern_european
religion                    catholic
symbol                        models_strat/symbol_denmark.CAS
rebel_symbol                    models_strat/symbol_rebels.CAS
primary_colour                    red 239, green 185, blue 24
secondary_colour                red 0, green 69, blue 142
loading_logo                    loading_screen/symbols/symbol128_denmark.tga
standard_index                    4
logo_index                    FACTION_LOGO_DENMARK
small_logo_index                SMALL_FACTION_LOGO_DENMARK
triumph_value                    5
custom_battle_availability            yes
can_sap                        no
prefers_naval_invasions                yes
can_have_princess                yes
has_family_tree                    yes

Change the bolded text to whatever religion you want. Then in SS/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/descr_strat you find your faction again and change their religion like this:

faction    denmark, sailor smith
ai_label        catholic
denari    10000
denari_kings_purse    1900

Again, change the bolded text to whatever you want. In the same file, you should also find all of your faction's starting settlements and delete the religion buildings that they start with. Then the last step is to go to SS/data/export_descr_buildings.txt and remove your faction's ability to build your previous religion's buildings and add your faction to your new religion's buildings.

One additional step you might want to take is to change your home regions starting religion levels. I believe this can be done in SS/data/world/maps/base/regions.txt

Edit: The steps I described are pretty much the essential steps you need to take. I looked at your thread and it looks like the guy who responded wrote some extra steps that would make it better like changing the look of your priests.

If you do not change the religious buildings you will be able to build f.e. cathedrals wich push pagan religion... if you do not care about this change inly the 2 first files!

[Ares O Chalkothorax]

Only if you script it... but yes it is possible!
But you have to do some work... I suggest you think about how much work you want to put in this as this changing-religion-ingame is not that easy to script!
...and if you will change it to pagan anyway its much easier to change it permanently to pagan from the beginning!
3 files to be changed:



If you do not change the religious buildings you will be able to build f.e. cathedrals wich push pagan religion... if you do not care about this change inly the 2 first files!

I've done these steps but I screwed up in the export.building I deleted norway from the catholic temples but I ctd

[PerXX]

I've done these steps but I screwed up in the export.building I deleted norway from the catholic temples but I ctd

Probably because some of their settlements are set to start with one of the Catholic churches. If they no longer have ownership of that building line, it's bound to screw things up.

[Lazy]

Probably because some of their settlements are set to start with one of the Catholic churches. If they no longer have ownership of that building line, it's bound to screw things up.

If I had to bet... I would bet exactly this!

The problem will be in

data/world/campaign/descr_strat.txt.

As Norway starts with 2 regions only ( or 3 ) its only a bit of work!
search for "bergen" ( or some other settlements name that is owned by norway ) and just search the churches and overwrite them with the pagan version!
Best would be if you copy and paste this from a lithuanian settlement to make sure you have no typos!

[Raveyn Ravensworth]

Btw, considering the why of Norway not being pagan, is the thing that they were the first of the Scandinavian countries to accept Christianity as their primary religion. Well, theyre king accepted it for them and forcefully made his people do so as well.. but still