TATW 3.0 BUGS & ISSUES (READ 1st POST BEFORE POSTING!)

[King Kong]

Please report bugs and issues in this thread.
Please give some information about the circumstances of the problem and if possible, post a picture.


Known Bugs & Issues

• The Fellowship Campaign was not supposed to be playable in the first 3.0 release. A silly mistake that I forgot to disable it.
• The custom settlements are mainly designed for the campaign map, therefore custom battles with custom settlements should only be played 1 vs 1.
• Dwarven Axethrowers can cause a crash.
• Until the first patch is released, a quick fix is here. (Put the file into "Medieval II Total War/mods/Third_Age_3/data and overwrite the existing file)
• Woodland Warriors unit is missing some axes.
• Dunlending Clansmen have wrong shield textures
• Minas Tirith misses some door textures where units go onto the walls.
• Spelling errors in several texts
• Balrogs gets hit by flaming projectiles cause a crash
• Deployment of Black Gate can be messed up when attackers have reeinforcements.
• Homeguard Cavalry has missing secondary weapons

This is NO Bug:

• passable water between Osgiliath (Reason: game limitation, no solution possible)
• Projectiles in Osgiliath can sometimes fly through buildings (Reason: performance issues)
• The game crashes before the first loading screens occurs (Reason: Installation was done in the wrong folder or one file of TATW 3.0 hasn't been installed)
• Landbridges at Pelargir or the Anduin river (Reason: Prevents AI from being stuck)
• Missing boiling oil (Reason: too much advantage for the player; not mentioned in Tolkien's lore)
• Rebels stand besides a city at game start (Reason: has one)

[Ipecac87]

i was playing with the silvan elfes and in the third turn i was checking the "mirror of galadriel" and i press f3 and since then the game was on mute, no sound in battles or in the map.

[Moneybags14]

i was playing with the silvan elfes and in the third turn i was checking the "mirror of galadriel" and i press f3 and since then the game was on mute, no sound in battles or in the map.

If you have an ASUS this can happen, just go to your setting and unmute your sounds. Happens to me when I hit any of the F* keys. This has nothing to do with TATW.

[Diglytron]

Hi, there is something up with compattible problems on Windows. Tried to install serveral time tough the same message.

Its in part one of the instalation. Also, its on windows 7 64 bit.

Great mod btw.

[Mhaedros]

What message?

[leo.civil.uefs]

There is a troll disponible for custom battles for gondor.

[Moneybags14]

There is a troll disponible for custom battles for gondor.

I can't buy trolls as gondor. Or am I mistaking you?

EDIT: If you select 'ALL' era you can, but you aren't supposed to do that, you get a whole bunch of things that gondor shouldn't have. you get all the units in early era so no need to do that.

[Mr_Nygren]

I know of a bug that makes the player unable to attack some of the rebels/bandits.. You can´t click on them to attack them and it´s only a few that has the error.

[kilomatre]

Just installed the mod through steam. followed the instructions and everything. when i first tried to play it, it started loading the third age page, then shut down due to an unspecified error. tried to play again and this time the screen went black as if to go into the game, then the unspecified error - error came up. how could i fix this? Also, the desktop shortcut says it cant find the .exe file?

[Legrasse]

I have tried installing the game multiple times now, and each time I try to execute the install file an error message comes up and tells me that "This file contains invalid data." What can I do/can be done to fix this? If it helps, I am running Windows 7.

Same thing here. Tried on both my stationary computer, running Windows 7 Home Premuim 64-bit, and a laptop running Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit.



Edit: Got it to work after downloading the files on the laptop, and copying the files from there. Apparently the stationary comp doesn't give a crap about integrity of downloaded files. Not a good thing when you spent 1000 € on it. Anyway: this is one of the best mods. Looking forward to some nice campaigns. Also: thanks to Dimitris_X for answering.

[Dimitris_x]

if i were you i will download the mod again and if possible from diferrent link,(Legrasse).thanks (dago),i have not banners in all m2,kingdom mods and tatw 3.

[Mhaedros]

In custom battles you can...

[LoneCaribou]

I have tried installing the game multiple times now, and each time I try to execute the install file an error message comes up and tells me that "This file contains invalid data." What can I do/can be done to fix this? If it helps, I am running Windows 7.

[Akhenaton]

One minor issue, the special skin for Elornd on the battlefield is missing. It´s that of a generic Elven General. Though a really great skin, it was nice to have a special skin for Elrind like you have eg. for Elladan and Elrohir.

[Moneybags14]

Ok I am going to do my best to set some things straight and try to answer some of your guys' problems.

One minor issue, the special skin for Elornd on the battlefield is missing. It´s that of a generic Elven General. Though a really great skin, it was nice to have a special skin for Elrind like you have eg. for Elladan and Elrohir.

There is no special skin for Elrond that I know of, just checked the model.db and unless he's named something different there isn't one.

Just to the right of Pelagrir you can go across the river.

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This is now known so please no more reports about this. And I'm not even sure its a bug, he probably meant for this to happen.

1) I downloaded part 1 and installed it
2) i downloaded part 2 and installed it
3) I clicked the launch button
4) I see the loading screen which says 3.0
5) It crashes and gives me this error: Imageshack.us
Anyone knows what's the problem ?
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I don't know or it is the issue that KK already modified in 1st post...
If so, how to resolve it?

This is not a problem with TATW3.0, there is a problem with your installation which could be that you installed it wrong or put it in the wrong path. Also could mean that you have a corrupted download which means you need to download again.

I just besieged Michel Delving as Eriador, and when I went into battle, I came up against a Hobbit army (which was good) led by a ferocious looking English general (not so good).

EDIT: I did send his sorry English butt packing, I would like to note!

Thanks for reporting this(I confirm), I can tell you after studying the problem quickly that there is NO model for the Rebel general therefore it is using a MTW2 vanilla model as the general. This can be fixed by editing but just good to know that this is a problem so it can be fixed.

I got a CTD when fighting an orc bodyguard on the bridge of Khâzad-Dûm.

I assume that the enemy general was killed and the death camera did not know how to handle the abyss.

Could be I'll have to look into it further. I tryed to recreate the setting twice but the camera showing my generals death never happened. Sorry can't figure this one out right now.

All my elvish units are invisible. I can see their weapons and clothing, but no body.

Zoomed way out they are visible as spritish looking thing

Reinstall your third age, it seems that you have a faulty installation. Or you have a faulty download, if after reinstalling doesnt work try downloading again.

Sure bug:

In my mordor campaign i got sieged at the black gate, they had 2 reinforcements. When the battle started I had the main enemy army in front of the gate in the open field (which is supposed to be), but the reinforcements spawned right and left of the black gate, on top of the mountains, having no way down or up. I killed the main army but couldn't do anything to the 2 reinforcements and therefor had to quit the battle, resulting in both loss of my army and the black gate (and thus the rest of my campaign as that was the choke point together with minas morgul)
Per chance it'd be better if there was a way to let the reinforcements spawn behind the main army, rather than the sides (?)

This is an issue with custom settlements and I'm sure KK is looking into it, he mentioned that they should be 1v1 in custom battles, but idk how you can prevent this in campaign. This is a question reserved for him since I have | | this much knowledge of the IWTE tool.

When I wanted to load my battle replay of my custom battle, the game always crashes just after the loading bar starts moving.
And idea for that issue?

Regards.
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Must be a faulty saved file, just tested my saved battle replay and it opened just fine.

Don't now if this is a bug or some kind of game limitation but when i fought a battle in east osgiliath all arrows were flying through the buildings

I think that is a bug because arrows cannot fly through walls/buildings that I know of. Not sure though.

I Found This I Dont Know if they are meant to be like this or are water crossing errors like in Pelargir/Anduin River like the previous picture.

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This is most likely added because they are now Rivers instead of little streams that you could cross before. Mostly so you can move your troops around

When I'm trying to change any condition (season, era, weather) in both Hornburg and Minas Tirith - error occurs

You probably set the culture wrong, set the culture to custom and then change the weather etc... I just tested it and it worked fine.

When Balrog got pierced by flaming bolt from ballista, game crash.

This was an issue in 2.1 as well. To fix it you need to change some text in the EDU. The Red text is what you need to put in. You will also need to do this for the Sauron Unit aswell.

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type             Balrog Elephant
dictionary       Balrog_Elephant      ; One-man Balrog-Elephant
category         cavalry
class            heavy
voice_type       Heavy
banner faction   main_cavalry
banner holy      crusade_cavalry
soldier          Elephant_Crew3, 6, 1, 1
mounted_engine   elephant_serpentine
mount            balrog
attributes  very_hardy, frighten_foot, frighten_mounted
formation  3, 3, 6, 6, 1, horde
stat_health  1, 10
stat_pri  0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, no, no, none, 0, 1
stat_pri_attr  no
stat_sec  45, 22, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_simple, piercing, sword, 0, 1
stat_sec_attr  launching, bp, area
stat_pri_armour  5, 5, 5, metal
stat_sec_armour  28, 22, metal
stat_heat  0
stat_ground  0, 0, -5, 5
stat_mental  18, impetuous, highly_trained, lock_morale
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay  0
stat_food  60, 300
stat_cost  1, 3000, 900, 500, 500, 3000, 1, 100000
stat_stl         0
armour_ug_levels 1
armour_ug_models Elephant_Crew3
ownership        hre
era 0            hre
era 1            hre
era 2            hre

There, hopefully that answers some questions! Wow thats alot of posts

[Reeth Caldarson]

I think that is a bug because arrows cannot fly through walls/buildings that I know of. Not sure though.

Me neither
It's quite annoying 'cause that way the enemy's always able to shoot down too many of my men

[Dr.Phibes]

unspecified error caused CTD in 3 player hotseat during a battle near east osgiliath turn 20ish first time this happened hope its nothing but best mention

[Alarico23]

This was an issue in 2.1 as well. To fix it you need to change some text in the EDU. The Red text is what you need to put in. You will also need to do this for the Sauron Unit aswell.

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type             Balrog Elephant
dictionary       Balrog_Elephant      ; One-man Balrog-Elephant
category         cavalry
class            heavy
voice_type       Heavy
banner faction   main_cavalry
banner holy      crusade_cavalry
soldier          Elephant_Crew3, 6, 1, 1
mounted_engine   elephant_serpentine
mount            balrog
attributes  very_hardy, frighten_foot, frighten_mounted
formation  3, 3, 6, 6, 1, horde
stat_health  1, 10
stat_pri  0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, no, no, none, 0, 1
stat_pri_attr  no
stat_sec  45, 22, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_simple, piercing, sword, 0, 1
stat_sec_attr  launching, bp, area
stat_pri_armour  5, 5, 5, metal
stat_sec_armour  28, 22, metal
stat_heat  0
stat_ground  0, 0, -5, 5
stat_mental  18, impetuous, highly_trained, lock_morale
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay  0
stat_food  60, 300
stat_cost  1, 3000, 900, 500, 500, 3000, 1, 100000
stat_stl         0
armour_ug_levels 1
armour_ug_models Elephant_Crew3
ownership        hre
era 0            hre
era 1            hre
era 2            hre

I have 2 'paragraphs' referring fo Sauron in my EDU file: they are Sauron Elephants and Sauron Elephants2
Which one is to be edited? Both? Could you please link the thread this matter is discussed in?
Thanks in advance

[Beregond]

This is now known so please no more reports about this. And I'm not even sure its a bug, he probably meant for this to happen.

I'm not so sure about it. If we even leave behind the lore factor (Anduin being a natural defence and frontier of Gondor for centuries), it's not really nice gameplay-wise. Dunno about Gondor in 3.0, but previously it wasn't doing very well, and the land bridge in the middle of Anduin the Great won't help Gondor much. I was going to play Gondor as soon as my download is completed

...any way to fix it quickly on my own?

thx in advance

[G(r)eeknight]

I'm not so sure about it. If we even leave behind the lore factor (Anduin being a natural defence and frontier of Gondor for centuries), it's not really nice gameplay-wise. Dunno about Gondor in 3.0, but previously it wasn't doing very well, and the land bridge in the middle of Anduin the Great won't help Gondor much. I was going to play Gondor as soon as my download is completed

...any way to fix it quickly on my own?

thx in advance

+1
And if i read the descr correctly ,the entire corsair submod is also intergrated.I severly doupt Gondor's ability to survive.Now ,the super-generals that play gondor might not notice a difference,but the AI is bound to get destroyed and ruin your campaign with an other faction.A way must be found so that gondor wont die in 50-70 turns as it did usually,and i dont think this is helping.

Also,am i the only one that sees Harad/Ruhn having highways from turn one,in nearly all of their regions,even villages(!)?I deleted them manually ,but id like to know if they were intentional.

These aside,the game stepped into an entire new level with custom settlements.Its bloody amazing.