What does it take to buy a settlement?

**Aeratus** · December 12, 2011, 01:41 AM

Playing SS 6.4 (VH/VH, no submods). I made Egypt my vassals. Then, I gave them Nicosia (i.e., Cyprus) to grow the settlement to 22.5k population required to upgrade to a citadel, using the AI's population growth bonuses. But they wouldn't give back the settlement no matter what. What does it take to buy a settlement? Apparently, not even my entire empire.

Interestingly, Egypt was being crusaded against, and I was saving their asses from the crusaders. (See pic 2). Later, I gave Egypt Adana to grow, since I had built all the population-increasing buildings there.

After a while, I gave them a final offer to give me back Nicosia and Adana. Since they rejected anything I could offer them, I left my offer to "something you would like in return." Then, they said "the Sultan has killed men for lesser insults!" and lowered their relations rating with me -- which is quite hilarious considering that I'm the protector and they're the vassal.

Then, I wiped them out in a single turn, and captured both Nicosia and Adana (which had enough population to become a citadel) within that turn. Unfortunately, I found out that Iqta'dar can only be trained in a citadel in Caesarea.

**Parzival2211** · December 12, 2011, 06:48 AM

Ridiculous... rejecting an empire and tons of money...

**Gazz** · December 12, 2011, 06:55 AM

Power Supreme and they have 1 province?

**TWWolfe** · December 12, 2011, 08:45 AM

The fact that they only had 3 provinces is probably why they wouldn't give the up. Nations with very few provinces are uch ore reluctant to let the go than ones with a whole lot to spare.

**tudor93** · December 12, 2011, 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by TWWolfe

The fact that they only had 3 provinces is probably why they wouldn't give the up. Nations with very few provinces are uch ore reluctant to let the go than ones with a whole lot to spare.

well this seems pretty logic if you only offer them money or something like that, but damn, he offered them his WHOLE empire !

**Scotty1207** · December 12, 2011, 11:01 AM

OMG

**danny X** · December 12, 2011, 11:12 AM

Post it in the "who am i thread", i might get one right for once!!

**Nazgûl Killer** · December 12, 2011, 11:14 AM

Reputation has a lot into this as well. If your reputation is "Mixed" or lower, factions will rarely accept settlements exchange - They will not believe you want just that settlement, nor would they believe you won't use them to steal that settlement a bit more easily and just take back all of your settlements later.

Sure, that example is a little too extreme, but reputation affects this heavily.