The Hypocrisy of Islamists towards the West, and towards the "Ummah"

[removeduser_052420]

It has always been my view (as a Pakistani ex-muslim) that many Muslims, and Islamists in particular, constantly rail against the West and it's actions towards muslims, while at the same time erroneously claiming that the "ummah" is within the right on a wide range of moral and political issues.

However, in this video, Hasan Nisar quite adequately sums up the hypocrisy of these muslims, who take advantage of the luxuries and freedoms awarded to them, while other muslim countries would undoubtedly deport them or execute them for similar behavior.

Now the whole case of some muslims acting like a bunch of retarded monkeys isn't really a big deal here in America, where most muslims are educated and are skilled professionals. However, in Europe where muslim immigrants often come from the lowest rungs of their respective societies, it is easy to make the connection.

What do you guys think? Do you think Mr. Nisar makes a good point?



Now of course i'm not arguing that all muslim immigrants are bad, as that is obviously retarded... but the speaker does indeed raise a good point on the stupidity of those muslims who believe that the "ummah" is the same as it was centuries ago.

[Nevins]

Where is the video?

[Yosemite]

title of this video is hugely misleading

it simply blames every single muslims and islam of hypocrisy


i doubt the real intentions of the person who uploaded this video on youtube

also i wish it would not be so one sided, the video only shows one side

Mr.Nisar is a very smart person mind you, often ranting on tv for hours on end, shame nobody pays any attention to him . He highlights a lot of problems very accurately.

The video title is very misleading though, he is actually taking a jab at the failure that is Pakistan. This country is the definition of shamelessness.

BTW the translation has been twisted.

How many of you could actually see the video without translation? Just asking.

his rants only get noticed when they fit the agenda of those who wish to give a bad name to every single believer and submitters ever

[removeduser_052420]

Sorry, it was being dumb. Can you see it now?

[Treize]

Since when you are an atheist?

[Sher Khan]

Most Islamists that are the target of Nisar's commentary haven't grown up in their original countries and lived long enough as adults there to compare and contrast the lives they now lead in the West.

But most (educated) Muslims who do have experience in one or several Muslim countries before moving to the West are like Nisar. Especially South Asians, who have a high chance of working in an Arab country sometime in their lives before moving to a Western country. Islamists do not target them because they cannot appeal to them, and they know better.

[Dr. Oza]

I am also an ex-muslim, and I definitely agree with you.

[Sher Khan]

Being Muslim or ex-Muslim isn't too important here. Most South Asians I've known who share Hasan Nisar's views are also Muslims themselves, and there is a reason he's a popular TV personality in the first place over there.

[panzer 4]

tell me something i dont know, the muslims use israel as an excuse to join together and rally around our leaders for support, that, our own leaders are the scum of the earth and all they do is live in ing fancy palaces while the rest of the population starves

[Blaze86420]

Istakhfirullah, too many ex-Muslims here.

Also, lol @ at the uploader's and video's names.

[Dr. Croccer]

Good video. The sad fact is that it isn't even that perplexing why so many support this hypocritical idea. It's no surprise that most of the most ardent believers in the ''Ummah'' are many Palestinians, Pakistanis, second-generation immigrants to Europe, and such, who have some kind of grievance against ''the West'' and get this ''us vs them'' view, which causes them to view other Muslims as a protective block, even though in many of these cases their fellow Muslims have ed them over the most.

[justicar5]

Good video. The sad fact is that it isn't even that perplexing why so many support this hypocritical idea. It's no surprise that most of the most ardent believers in the ''Ummah'' are many Palestinians, Pakistanis, second-generation immigrants to Europe, and such, who have some kind of grievance against ''the West'' and get this ''us vs them'' view, which causes them to view other Muslims as a protective block, even though in many of these cases their fellow Muslims have ed them over the most.

The huge issue is that the 'us vs them' is being reciprocated, and exacerbated. The last time that Europe let this hostility rise against a religious group 50 million people died.

[Tiwaz]

The huge issue is that the 'us vs them' is being reciprocated, and exacerbated. The last time that Europe let this hostility rise against a religious group 50 million people died.

Which should be enough of warning to Muslim population to get on with the program and adjust to their host nations, but no. They just HAVE to go on antagonizing the natives.

Good you want to fight, thats good. Lets see how well you do against 16 M16 pointed at you, fresh from US factories. Or how about a Tank from America's own armaments factory. I heard they are weaker than giant enemy crabs.

The fact is you can , whine and cry about "personal responsibility" all you want sitting from your arm chair. You only have to look at Bahrain to see what a mess it can be when one side has American guns and the others do not. How about you finance them? Or are you too comfortable sitting in your house telling other people what must be done?

Hey, guess why I can sit in my chair... Because we did not let our country end up ed up!
YOU have responsibility for fate of YOUR country. Not me. I take responsibility for MY native land, and none others.

If you want my help for fixing YOUR mess, you better be prepared to offer me something to compensate my trouble.

[panzer 4]

Hey, guess why I can sit in my chair... Because we did not let our country end up ed up!
YOU have responsibility for fate of YOUR country. Not me. I take responsibility for MY native land, and none others.

If you want my help for fixing YOUR mess, you better be prepared to offer me something to compensate my trouble.

lol?

it was the western world that ed up the middle east, not the natives.

i find it funny how you talk about an area of the world as if you learnt it from a Comedy show

it is the wests duty to fix up the mess they created, but what do they do? they go ahead and it up even more, and i still laugh when you hear the age old question from the typical westerner

"Why do they hate us?"

[Tiwaz]

lol?

it was the western world that ed up the middle east, not the natives.

i find it funny how you talk about an area of the world as if you learnt it from a Comedy show

it is the wests duty to fix up the mess they created, but what do they do? they go ahead and it up even more, and i still laugh when you hear the age old question from the typical westerner

"Why do they hate us?"

Sounds like your worldview is from Comedy show.
West ed up ME not natives?

Last time west had territories there was couple generations ago.
India, Israel and plethora of other colonies/territories were released around same time as ME.

THEY have prospered, ME has not. So fault lies not in west but natives.
It is hard to build up your country, so apparently many ME people simply choose the easy route and develop victim syndrome so they do not need to lift a finger.

[Nevins]

Finally got the free time to watch this (finals) and it was refreshing to see such incisive commentary coming from a country that is desperately lacking in this area. Was a bit confused by the dubstep type vocals going on in the background and was disappointed with the level of disdain that the host had for him while speaking, but you take what you can get.

[DarthLazy]

Mr.Nisar is a very smart person mind you, often ranting on tv for hours on end, shame nobody pays any attention to him . He highlights a lot of problems very accurately.

The video title is very misleading though, he is actually taking a jab at the failure that is Pakistan. This country is the definition of shamelessness.

BTW the translation has been twisted.

How many of you could actually see the video without translation? Just asking.

[Nevins]

Mr.Nisar is a very smart person mind you, often ranting on tv for hours on end, shame nobody pays any attention to him . He highlights a lot of problems very accurately.

The video title is very misleading though, he is actually taking a jab at the failure that is Pakistan. This country is the definition of shamelessness.

BTW the translation has been twisted.

How many of you could actually see the video without translation? Just asking.

I only speak English and Latin so I have to take the translation on faith. What errors can you point out?

[DarthLazy]

Everywhere the translation says Islam, or Muslims, when the real word is just "they" which is referring to Pakistani ex-pats who go abroad. Yes OP, people just like you.

You see, there is a huge number of very educated people which go abroad and do nothing in Pakistan, these same people also chant death to the west, which really does not make any sense at all.

The main thing im talking about, is the boxes that appear after the second, that is where he begins to use pronouns, an attempt to fix hypocrisy is being seen as some sort of rant against Islam by the poster .

The main thing he is saying, is that we [Pakistanis] do not have any worth in any Muslim country unless said country is as poor as us and only the west (sort of) tolerates us .

[Veliky Kaiser Theos]

He is quite right. You shouldn't move to a nation for it's prosperity and then whine about it's culture.