An easy modification - Good or bad idea?

**Reimu Hakurei** · December 10, 2011, 02:01 PM

Knights came from nobility. Nobility often married into royalty, making them claimants to the throne.

So, would it make sense to make all Knight units - both mounted and dismounted - general bodyguard units? You know, when you would hire knights, they would become family members instead of regular captains.
This would also apply to Crusader Knights, Mercenary Frankish and German Knights.

Good idea or not?
I can easily mod it.

**Reimu Hakurei** · December 10, 2011, 02:25 PM

So, no opinions?

**nessj999** · December 10, 2011, 03:01 PM

no, i dont think its good, maybe for some knights, like knights of santiago but only for spain or something like that.

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**Reimu Hakurei** · December 10, 2011, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by nessj999

no, i dont think its good, maybe for some knights, like knights of santiago but only for spain or something like that.

Ah okay... I'll do it

Originally Posted by nessj999

can you tell me the link of your signature ? is that a test ? i want it to !

Here it is

**The Holy Pilgrim** · December 10, 2011, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by LEGIONARIVS HVNGARIVS

Knights came from nobility. Nobility often married into royalty, making them claimants to the throne.

So, would it make sense to make all Knight units - both mounted and dismounted - general bodyguard units? You know, when you would hire knights, they would become family members instead of regular captains.
This would also apply to Crusader Knights, Mercenary Frankish and German Knights.

Good idea or not?
I can easily mod it.

It would be interesting to see.

I guess it would make you more attached to each unit you have.

**Reimu Hakurei** · December 11, 2011, 03:38 AM

Originally Posted by The Holy Pilgrim

It would be interesting to see.

I guess it would make you more attached to each unit you have.

Yes indeed.

So anyway... here we go
MOD for Vanilla
http://www.mediafire.com/?2rcdwycpoz6l7he
MOD for MagyarMod
http://www.mediafire.com/?ggocss55flukjd0

How do you like it?

**Vladyvid** · December 11, 2011, 06:55 AM

Thats something Im planning to do in my mod. All knights and elite units will be general units - main reason will be for RPG elements. So, yes I like your idea very much.

**Reimu Hakurei** · December 11, 2011, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by Vladyvid

Thats something Im planning to do in my mod. All knights and elite units will be general units - main reason will be for RPG elements. So, yes I like your idea very much.

Thanks

It really makes the game much more... lifelike, at least to me.
I'm playing as Sicily in the MagyarMod, and I really love it. All I need is to recruit a few knights, and I finally have governors for all of my settlements.
Makes the game much more realistic, because in real life, every province had some sort of noble to rule it.

However, those Mercenary Knights don't turn into Generals despite the fact that I added it to their attributes. When I try to view their unit description in the game, the game just crashes.
Maybe it's just MagyarMod, I don't know, I haven't tried this with Vanilla, and I'm not going to either: I can't test mods for vanilla, because when I set the game to load files first, it won't start

Originally Posted by vercassivelaunos

If you do this, you have to limit the numbers of those units drastically, or make them much more expensive. But the main idea is good

Don't worry though. Even though Knights (both Mounted and Dismounted) become General units, somehow they don't turn into Family members.
But anyway, I was thinking of making them somewhat more special... stronger, more expensive AND more limited in numbers.

**vercassivelaunos** · December 11, 2011, 06:57 AM

If you do this, you have to limit the numbers of those units drastically, or make them much more expensive. But the main idea is good

**vercassivelaunos** · December 11, 2011, 10:40 AM

I know that they don't become family members, but they are still generals. It makes no difference for battles. But if you want to limit their numbers that would be ok.

**Reimu Hakurei** · December 11, 2011, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by vercassivelaunos

I know that they don't become family members, but they are still generals. It makes no difference for battles. But if you want to limit their numbers that would be ok.

I think it would be realistic the way it is.
Generals are generals. If you give them a princess, they become family members.
However, I must find a way to stop adoptions though.

**Reimu Hakurei** · December 14, 2011, 10:01 AM

The Westerners have a LOT of units that are General units, the Knights.
But what about the Muslims and Russians?

**Mhaedros** · December 15, 2011, 04:40 AM

Royal Mamluks?

**Reimu Hakurei** · December 15, 2011, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by Mhaedros

Royal Mamluks?

Yeah, that will work.

Originally Posted by Vladyvid

I would just make the elite cavs and perhaps some elite foot soldiers, the arabic faris were equivalent to knights I guess. I havet been playing vanilla for a long time and dont really remember the possible unit names, so from what I remember I think armenian cavalry, ghulam cavalry, faris, dismounted faris, russia: druzhina, boyar sons (stupid unit name if you ask me). Hope it helps, good luck with your mod.

Unfortunately, I can't make Mercs Generals.
I add the General thing to them, but it still doesn't make them generals.

**Vladyvid** · December 15, 2011, 05:06 AM

I would just make the elite cavs and perhaps some elite foot soldiers, the arabic faris were equivalent to knights I guess. I havet been playing vanilla for a long time and dont really remember the possible unit names, so from what I remember I think armenian cavalry, ghulam cavalry, faris, dismounted faris, russia: druzhina, boyar sons (stupid unit name if you ask me). Hope it helps, good luck with your mod.