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    Default The southern end of the W. Front (Where no-man's land met Switzerland)

    I thought I posted a topic on this but I guess I didn't. I was really curious about what happened where the fronts ended considering it stretched from the sea in belgium to the swiss border. I actually found some cool pictures and maps of the southernmost area of the front. Basically the French dragoons took Pfetterhausen in Alsace. In front of that town was noman's land and the town changed hands back and fourth. But I guess on the French side it pretty much stretched down to a swiss-french border shack which there are many pictures of. After no-man's land there was a spit of swiss land that stuck out to the south which the swiss put together observation posts and trenches and they also had the highground. To the East of that is germany after you go a little bit further east the swiss border stops and germany continues to the south. But the swiss had such a commanding view of both sides and they were ordered that if any country attacked them that they were supposed to fight to the last man and there was to be no surrender (for both wars), and if they heard that switzerland surrendered that it was enemy propaganda and that it was the soldiers duty to fight until he used all his ammo and then use his bayonet. Plus all bridges, railways, and tunnels in the mountains were mined and ready to be detonated upon invasion effectively making the country useless to any army that wanted to outflank the other via switzerland. Anyways I want to find more pics on no-man's land around that area but you guys might find this stuff interesting.
    http://landships.activeboard.com/for...picID=12239539 There's also links to other threads on the topic.

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    Default Re: The southern end of the W. Front (Where no-man's land met Switzerland)

    I can't believe none of you find this part of history interesting?

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    Default Re: The southern end of the W. Front (Where no-man's land met Switzerland)

    Quote Originally Posted by Swing View Post
    I can't believe none of you find this part of history interesting?
    You let it sit for only 7 hours. Specifically the 7 when we were sleeping..

    Anyways, I find it odd that they were so opposed to joining sides. Why destroy your own country when you can offer assistance to the side that's not actively invading? Especially at the cost of your entire armed forces..
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    That is the flaw in your theory, gentlemen and I will not help you out of it. If you choose to deal with men by means of compulsion, do so. But you will discover that you need the voluntary co-operation of your victims, in many more ways than you can see at present. And your victims should discover that it is their own volition - which you cannot force - that makes you possible. I choose to be consistent and I will obey you in the manner you demand. Whatever you wish me to do, I will do it at the point of a gun. If you sentence me to jail, you will have to send armed men to carry me there - I will not volunteer to move. If you fine me, you will have to seize my property to collect the fine - I will not volunteer to pay it. If you believe that you have the right to force me - use your guns openly. I will not help you to disguise the nature of your action. -Hank Rearden

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    Default Re: The southern end of the W. Front (Where no-man's land met Switzerland)

    Quote Originally Posted by Whukid View Post
    You let it sit for only 7 hours. Specifically the 7 where we were sleeping..

    Anyways, I find it odd that they were so opposed to joining sides. Why destroy your own country when you can offer assistance to the side that's not actively invading? Especially at the cost of your entire armed forces..
    its switzerland, its the bank of the world

    would you attack your bank?
    The US will gladly step up to become the world police when there is oil involved, yet they will resign the second there is a genocide in Africa, a slaughter in an allied nation, or a massacre committed by dictators, all who's nations have nothing to offer, but the gratitude of the people to the international community for reaching out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panzer 4 View Post
    its switzerland, its the bank of the world

    would you attack your bank?
    Touche.
    That is the flaw in your theory, gentlemen and I will not help you out of it. If you choose to deal with men by means of compulsion, do so. But you will discover that you need the voluntary co-operation of your victims, in many more ways than you can see at present. And your victims should discover that it is their own volition - which you cannot force - that makes you possible. I choose to be consistent and I will obey you in the manner you demand. Whatever you wish me to do, I will do it at the point of a gun. If you sentence me to jail, you will have to send armed men to carry me there - I will not volunteer to move. If you fine me, you will have to seize my property to collect the fine - I will not volunteer to pay it. If you believe that you have the right to force me - use your guns openly. I will not help you to disguise the nature of your action. -Hank Rearden

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    Quote Originally Posted by panzer 4 View Post
    its switzerland, its the bank of the world

    would you attack your bank?
    That didn't stop me...

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    Default Re: The southern end of the W. Front (Where no-man's land met Switzerland)

    i find it interesting, but i wasnt "in town" on December 10 so i didnt even see the topic
    The US will gladly step up to become the world police when there is oil involved, yet they will resign the second there is a genocide in Africa, a slaughter in an allied nation, or a massacre committed by dictators, all who's nations have nothing to offer, but the gratitude of the people to the international community for reaching out.

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    Well I do find it interesting, but it’s something I was already aware of.

    Part of the defence network built by the Swiss during WW1 has been preserved on the Mont Vully. You can still visit the trenches and dugouts. I’ll be stationed close to there next month, so I’ll try and take some pictures.
    Mont Vully is/was an important tactical position as you can observe most of the Swiss plateau from there. It’s also placed right in the main (and only practical, due to the Jura and lakes) corridor where an army would go through if invading from west or north (which, not incidentally, was the “plan H” conceived by the WW1 French high command… “in case”). There are fortifications from various periods covering WW2 all the way back to the Helvetians of antiquity. According to legend the Swiss Army built so many underground networks there, we even forgot where some of them are.
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    Default Re: The southern end of the W. Front (Where no-man's land met Switzerland)

    was it because your team was something like this?

    The US will gladly step up to become the world police when there is oil involved, yet they will resign the second there is a genocide in Africa, a slaughter in an allied nation, or a massacre committed by dictators, all who's nations have nothing to offer, but the gratitude of the people to the international community for reaching out.

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    Default Re: The southern end of the W. Front (Where no-man's land met Switzerland)

    Well, the swiss did get their neutrality guaranteed at the Congress of Vienna in 1815, and I don't see what they could have gained from entering the war (except from land winnings ).

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