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    http://observers.france24.com/conten...cism-blackface

    Not that I have anything against it, I think its pretty harmless, but Im honestly surprised the age of political correctness hasnt caught up with this tradition sooner!

    So what say you people of TWC!? Is it down right racist or Is it a harmless cultural heritage being undermined by excessive political correctness?

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    What a load of crap, there is nothing wrong with this tradition. If people get offended, then too effing bad for them, they can deal with it.

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    Yeah...

    That does look racist to me though its all about the intent by the people who celebrate the tradition
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    Default Re: Dutch Christmas tradition branded racist

    Quote Originally Posted by Machiavelli25 View Post
    Yeah...

    That does look racist to me though its all about the intent by the people who celebrate the tradition
    agreed,as it says in the article children are no longer told the helper is black, rather he's covered in soot, its all about the context. The tradition is for children, and if they dont see it as racist then there shouldnt e a problem

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    Too many people with compensation issues... There is nothing racist about that.
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    Nowadays everything is Racist except when it's aimed at White Race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IrishBlood View Post
    http://observers.france24.com/conten...cism-blackface

    Not that I have anything against it, I think its pretty harmless, but Im honestly surprised the age of political correctness hasnt caught up with this tradition sooner!

    So what say you people of TWC!? Is it down right racist or Is it a harmless cultural heritage being undermined by excessive political correctness?
    Of course we should blacklist noncolorspecificlist just racist tradition.

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    Who's getting offended by this?
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    I am not sure which part is racism... Does Dutch government try to say Zwarte Piet cannot be a black?
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    Default Re: Dutch Christmas tradition branded racist

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    Who's getting offended by this?
    Quote Originally Posted by hellheaven1987 View Post
    I am not sure which part is racism... Does Dutch government try to say Zwarte Piet cannot be a black?
    presumably the Neatherlands resonably large black minority, i guess the article wasnt very specific

    EDIT: this group = http://zwartepietisracisme.tumblr.com/

    anyone speak dutch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IrishBlood View Post
    presumably the Neatherlands resonably large black minority, i guess the article wasnt very specific

    EDIT: this group = http://zwartepietisracisme.tumblr.com/

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    Waarom niet “SINTERKLAAS EN MALLE PIET”?
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    Default Re: Dutch Christmas tradition branded racist

    We do this thread every year.

    I dont know, its the Dutch. They aren't racist, just odd sometimes.
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    Christmas tradition

    As for traditions...
    On the island of Ameland they have a unknown and obscure tradition called Sunneklaas which is even cooler. At 2 or 3 December the men dress up in costumes, stroll the streets and beat up all women and children with clubs who are still outside. The men will enter houses and force women and children to dance otherwise they beat them with their sticks. A TV crew tried to film this odd happening and they got beaten too, and their camera did not survive. They are being very secretive about all this and they don't like outsiders on the island that time of the year. All in all reading about it reminded me of the Midsomer Murders episode The Night Of The Stag minus the sex part but with more violence.

    Oh and all houses have to be completely dark or they will throw stones through your windows...
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    Quote Originally Posted by IPA35 View Post
    Christmas tradition

    As for traditions...
    On the island of they have a unknown and obscure tradition called Sunneklaas which is even cooler. At 2 or 3 December the men dress up in costumes, stroll the streets and beat up all women and children with clubs who are still outside. The men will enter houses and force women and children to dance otherwise they beat them with their sticks. A TV crew tried to film this odd happening and they got beaten too, and their camera did not survive. They are being very secretive about all this and they don't like outsiders on the island that time of the year. All in all reading about it reminded me of the Midsomer Murders episode The Night Of The Stag minus the sex part but with more violence.

    Oh and all houses have to be completely dark or they will throw stones through your windows...
    Jesus Christ! What the is wrong with you people?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Claudius Gothicus View Post
    Remember there's nothing more evil in this world than dutch people
    That is true, who else could turn Christmas into an overtly racist holiday focused on beating women and children?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nce_wht_guy View Post
    That is true, who else could turn Christmas into an overtly racist holiday focused on beating women and children?
    if you add some yelling and waterboarding it sounds like my familys traditional christmas celebration

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    Quote Originally Posted by nce_wht_guy View Post
    Jesus Christ! What the is wrong with you people?
    They only do that on an island with a few thousand people on it. It has nothing to do with Sinterklaas even though it has a similar name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IPA35 View Post
    Christmas tradition

    As for traditions...
    On the island of Ameland they have a unknown and obscure tradition called Sunneklaas which is even cooler. At 2 or 3 December the men dress up in costumes, stroll the streets and beat up all women and children with clubs who are still outside. The men will enter houses and force women and children to dance otherwise they beat them with their sticks. A TV crew tried to film this odd happening and they got beaten too, and their camera did not survive. They are being very secretive about all this and they don't like outsiders on the island that time of the year. All in all reading about it reminded me of the Midsomer Murders episode The Night Of The Stag minus the sex part but with more violence.

    Oh and all houses have to be completely dark or they will throw stones through your windows...
    Quote Originally Posted by nce_wht_guy View Post
    Jesus Christ! What the is wrong with you people?
    People on Ameland are weird. They invented christmas tree throwing ffs.

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    Those that emigrate to new countries need to remember that they ought to respect their adoptive country's traditions. Why did they move there in the first place?

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