Preview II: The Sassanid Dynasty of Persia

[julianus heraclius]

This is RS2 horse model and texture (horse and head textures)

Hi pacco, I've PMed you in regard to this.

Cheers

[Joar]

@Joar
Are you kidding me?!

1. I'm not creating the units, julianus heraclius is, and he's already sent you a PM about this, if I understand it correctly. I have, however, made some textures for the units, mainly shields, some tunics and caparisons, but that's all. I have never done, or claimed to have done, any work on a horse model ( I don't model, by the way ) or a head texture.

My RS2 banners pattern

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"Yours"

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2. I asked permission from leif_erikson to use the battle standards he made for the mod The Fall of Rome as a base for the ones I'm making for RO etc. He granted me permission to do so. I have the PM to prove this if you don't believe me. The one above is based on these, but I have modified the alpha pattern some.

Now, I assumed that these banners were made by leif_erikson - you're saying they're not? If they're made by you, then there's obviously been a misunderstanding or a mistake. But the bottom line is: I asked permission, I did not steal.

I already warned you, because I saw my RS2 work on your units and you moved them.

Warned me about what? And what have I moved? I have not moved anything, and I have never ever had any contact with you until you started accusing me of being a thief. I have never had any contact with the RSII team, in fact I have never even played RSII, which I admit, is a bit embarassing.

Now, you could have handled this a lot nicer, instead you come here, accuse me of not only being a thief, but also one who tries to "cover it up". This makes me genuinely sad. If you believe that there's something wrong, you could have contacted the leader of this mod ( julianus_heraclius ) by PM, to clarify the situation. If we've made a mistake, you can trust us to rectify it in every possible way. We do not steal other people's work.

[SeniorBatavianHorse]

1. I'm not creating the units, julianus heraclius is, and he's already sent you a PM about this, if I understand it correctly. I have, however, made some textures for the units, mainly shields, some tunics and caparisons, but that's all. I have never done, or claimed to have done, any work on a horse model ( I don't model, by the way ) or a head texture.



2. I asked permission from leif_erikson to use the battle standards he made for the mod The Fall of Rome as a base for the ones I'm making for RO etc. He granted me permission to do so. I have the PM to prove this if you don't believe me. The one above is based on these, but I have modified the alpha pattern some.

Now, I assumed that these banners were made by leif_erikson - you're saying they're not? If they're made by you, then there's obviously been a misunderstanding or a mistake. But the bottom line is: I asked permission, I did not steal.



Warned me about what? And what have I moved? I have not moved anything, and I have never ever had any contact with you until you started accusing me of being a thief. I have never had any contact with the RSII team, in fact I have never even played RSII, which I admit, is a bit embarassing.

Now, you could have handled this a lot nicer, instead you come here, accuse me of not only being a thief, but also one who tries to "cover it up". This makes me genuinely sad. If you believe that there's something wrong, you could have contacted the leader of this mod ( julianus_heraclius ) by PM, to clarify the situation. If we've made a mistake, you can trust us to rectify it in every possible way. We do not steal other people's work.

May I just say how reasoned and well considered your response is, Joar. I can only hope that the issue is resolved quickly and amicably for all concerned.

[Joar]

Now that the issue concerning the units have been resolved, I'd like to put this whole matter to rest and to clarify the situation about the battle standards. I want to start by saying that it's very unfortunate that this is handled in public, but since I've been publicly accused of being a thief, I see no other way to settle it. Besides, this preview has been tainted enough as it is.

When leif_erikson released his excellent banners for florin80's great mod, The Fall of Rome, I was very impressed with his work. So, I asked leif_erikson for permission to use them ( in a modified way ) for our IB mods. Being a good guy, leif_erikson granted my request. I did also browse through the FoR list of credits, which says:

leif_erikson - special thanks for the numerous textures he created especially for this mod. The units of quite a few factions were upgraded thanks to him. Also for the faction symbols and banners, for the campaign map diplomats textures and for the building cards of the germanic/sarmatian/alan/hunnic foederati settlements.

I thought I had acquired all the necessary permissions, but I should have continued to read, because a bit further down, it also says:

pacco - for the cloth texture used as a base for the new standards.

So, I've made a mistake and missed this part. For that I sincerely apologize. But I want to make it absolutely clear: I did not intentionally steal, and I have never tried to cover anything up. It does not make any sense that I would ask leif_erikson for permission, but steal from pacco. A simple PM could have straightened everything out, and we could have avoided this whole mess.

I have also edited both this preview and the Palmyran one, and replaced the banners using the cloth texture made by pacco, with a new cloth texture made by me. The alpha pattern is still the work of leif_erikson, which I have modified. Finally I want to point out that the FoR credits does not specify which cloth texture was made by pacco, but I assume it is the "large centre one". If there's additional textures that I've missed, I would appreciate a PM so that I can rectify it at once.

May I just say how reasoned and well considered your response is, Joar. I can only hope that the issue is resolved quickly and amicably for all concerned.

Thank you for your kind words.

[Blatta Optima Maxima]

Wait, didn't they acquire permission on your horse models like a year ago?

[Emperor Caesar]

Good preview, I look forward to crushing the mighy Persian Empire once and for all.

[Blatta Optima Maxima]

Look out, we've got a Crassus/Gordian III/Philip the Arab/Valerian/Julian here!

[pacco]

Everything is clear.

[tone]

Yes, absolutely fine. I gave permission to use RS2 cataphract stuff a while ago for one of the other IB mods that the team were working on.

[Blatta Optima Maxima]

Phew

[tomySVK]

It´s good news that these issue is settled now.

[Diocle]

Can I say a thing to Joar and JH?
This preview is not tained in any way by that silly problem, this Persian preview is great as the previous, the work of the team is magnificent and I thank you for your efforts, you are giving us the FIRST ROMAN MOD ABOUT THE III c. ,I waiting for this from the exit of RTW! Again a big thank you!

P:S: sorry for the capital letters but in this case!.......

[SeniorBatavianHorse]

re: VV's post, I have opened a new thread to discuss this issue so we do not clog up this one!

[Rampante-Cid]

Excelent work!!!!

[the victor]

the units mis something.

[First Citizen Gallienus]

the units mis something.

Care to extrapolate?

[Diocle]

First Citizen Gallienus?...... Can I ask you only one small question? I do not find the word 'mis' in my English dictionary and translators, can you help me please?.... It seem you can understand the meaning of the previous post but I'm not sure about the real mining of mister 'Victor' post, so it could be something I miss......ooops!... sorry nothing!

[Pompeius Magnus]

A fine preview (another excellent one).
The clear distinction between pure sasanian troops and foreigners (like soldiers from media etc) is in my opinion the right way and reflects the diversity of people living in Mesopotamia, Iran, East-Iran and the area of Fars (or Pars) where the sasanian dynasty came from.
The shown units looking suberb and once more I'm sure that this modification becomes amazing.
The appearance of this preview is well done once more (esp @Joar).

[Joar]

The appearance of this preview is well done once more (esp @Joar).

Thanks!

[Lionheart]

Another very great preview. Congratulations you are doing a fine...very fine or even great job on it.
Now i now i'm beeing a pest: so when you show us the Gallic Empire preview? Or the roman preview? Or now you are just focus in the german tribes?