Question about orc faction ram

[Turin Master of Doom]

Can you set it on fire? I had 4 units of archers with flames fire at it and nothing happened, this isnt once either. Also this is my first post so HI everyone Great Mod

[lolIsuck]

yes you can, it's basicalliy just luck, sometimes I have 4/5 units of archers firing volley after volley and it won't burn and sometimes it burns after 3 arrows hit it

[Teutonic Warlord]

yes you can, it's basicalliy just luck, sometimes I have 4/5 units of archers firing volley after volley and it won't burn and sometimes it burns after 3 arrows hit it

Which is why I build ballista towers in commonly-besieged settlements (if I can). Ballistas and boiling oil will increase your chances to destroy/burn it significantly. I have never been able to get ANYTHING to burn while defending using flaming arrows (though the AI seems to have a much better chance at this than me). The other day, ballista towers actually destroyed an enemy ram right in front of the gate just before it took its first hit at the gate. I was wondering why all their troops were massing to get in line to go up their ladders and found the remains. I was quite happy, and actually threw all my infantry into the little space on top of the walls (difficult but possible). That was a fun and easy battle.

[Turin Master of Doom]

Hmm i haven't had any luck then. and im so much in debt i cant afford to upgrade ha.

[StealthFox]

Yeah, it is much harder to destroy siege equipment in TATW than in vanilla M2TW. I almost never destroy any by just using flaming arrows. As Teutonic Warlord pointed out though, ballista towers usually do a pretty good job at taking out at least one tower or ram.

[KnightsTemplar]

In reality, at least thinking from a normal sense, tiny arrows shouldn't kill rams.
Even that they are 'flaming', I don't think it can ignate things easily.
(Thats what siege engines supposed to do IRL, to soak up arrowfire lol)

[Dwarven Berserker]

In reality, at least thinking from a normal sense, tiny arrows shouldn't kill rams.
Even that they are 'flaming', I don't think it can ignate things easily.
(Thats what siege engines supposed to do IRL, to soak up arrowfire lol)

Agreed. In the good ol' days most siege weapons were even covered in wet animal hides to prevent them from getting burned. So if you look it it like that the only way to destroy siege equipment should be cataputs.

[smoesville]

If you have a unit just in front of the gate on the outside it can stop the rams approach. You will have to sacrifice them but you can prevent a breach in the gates.

[Bobz]

Ballista towers are the way to go. They won't always stop them, nor should they siege equipment would become pointless, but they stand a better chance than archers. Concentrate your fire on the enemies infantry and the towers will auto-fire on the rams.

Also having towers in a settlement seems to reduce the AI's desire to attack you in the first place.

[Lazy]

Mangonels and Trebuchets are great too!
Just let them fire over your walls at the enemy

[Andor Vex]

Mangonels and Trebuchets are great too!
Just let them fire over your walls at the enemy

Imagine if we could have trebuchets as part of Minas Tirith in 3.0... aaah, if only that was possible.

[Lazy]

Imagine if we could have trebuchets as part of Minas Tirith in 3.0... aaah, if only that was possible.

It is! I even know how to do it ( in theory )!
You "only" have to replace the 3d model of the towers with one that has a trebuchet on top...
then you have "only" to make the animations... the rest would be easy
It is just a lot of work!

[Teutonic Warlord]

It is! I even know how to do it ( in theory )!
You "only" have to replace the 3d model of the towers with one that has a trebuchet on top...
then you have "only" to make the animations... the rest would be easy
It is just a lot of work!

Get to work on it. Right now. I will pay you in rep once it is completed and implemented into the mod.

[TWWolfe]

Get to work on it. Right now. I will pay you in rep once it is completed and implemented into the mod.

Feel free to smack me around if this isn't possible, but couldn't you also put a flat, hill terrain feature level with the top of the wall behind the wall, so you could also push siege weapons up and put them on those?

[Teutonic Warlord]

You could do that, but you would need a lot of space as there are four trebuchets in one single unit.
Another problem would be that you always have to keep those trebuchet units in Minas Tirith.

But it still works.
I think leo has created his dwarven fort in this way.

I would still prefer the towers. You just have to pay for them once and don't pay upkeep.

Get to work on it. Right now. I will pay you in rep once it is completed and implemented into the mod.

My offer still stands. How does rep every day for a month sound?

[smoesville]

Or men with big axes my preferred method.

[Skald]

Or men with big axes my preferred method.

Men with axes can destroy siege weapons?

[nicsoew]

Just cut the ropes/chains and ram is ed up

[Ngugi]

Just cut the ropes/chains and ram is ed up

Good intention here, but this thread has been dead for close to 3 years (see the date of the post above yours); they're further discussing TATW version 2.1.

If this issue is relevant today, people are free to start [a] new thread[s] about it.
This thread however is

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[Bungo Baggins]

You could do that, but you would need a lot of space as there are four trebuchets in one single unit.
Another problem would be that you always have to keep those trebuchet units in Minas Tirith.

But it still works.
I think leo has created his dwarven fort in this way.