FotS DLC May Be a Clue as to the Next Total War . . .

[KillaJules]

In the FotS DLC, there will be gatling guns, coastal artillery, campaign map bombardment and battlemap offshore bombardment abilities and more modern weapons and warships. I doubt that CA would go to the trouble of making all these major gameplay changes and new models just for an expansion.

I think that the next Total War game will also be set in this era because of this and one particular setting stands out to me as a possibility. The Boxer Rebellion.

The Boxer Rebellion is in gameplay terms similar to FotS. It involves anti-modern forces (with modern weapons) and pro modern forces (also with modern weapons) and troops from various outside nations.

The Boxers had a lot of the latest rifles and artillery. Other Chinese forces were similarly equipped.

You might be wondering, how could this game possibly have any variety? Well the Chinese forces were quite varied, including Imperial, Boxer and Muslim forces. However, there were huge numbers of foreign troops that made up the 8 Nation Alliance. These should all be playable and would probably get their reinforcements by controlling coastal ports.

The 8 Nation Alliance consisted of troops from Britain, USA, France, Germany, Russia, Italy, Austria- Hungary and Japan. Russia and Japan fought each other in this war so there is in-game potential for the alliance to break. This allows for great faction variety.

This war was vast in scale (numbers taken from wikipedia, please don't shoot me down for this ) 300 000 Boxers, 70 000 Imperial Chinese, 10 000 Muslim Chinese Kansu Braves, several thousand Manchu Banner Men, 100 000 Russians, 50 000 Americans/Europeans as well as Japanese. Also, the war included stand up battles, naval battles and sieges.

This has everything it needs to be a Total War game without being WW1 which would probably be too static.

Opinions? Anyone else think that this is doable?

EDIT: this war only lasted from 1899 to 1901, however if each turn is 1 or 2 weeks only in length then there will be more than enough turns especially if the campaign can continue past the historic end.

[InAUGral]

This is a great idea. It is a possibility. After reading the wikipedia page and the more information I read the more I think it would work as a TW game. Large scale, Lots of sides (the 8 nation alliance but they fought against each other in some instances making it an open alliance i.e. you can break it.). It tickes all my boxes that make a great TW game.

[Erwin Rommel]

Think earlier.

Taiping Rebellion and the Ever Victorious army led by an Englishman with a an elite corps of Filipino bodyguards....

Oh and Jet Li instead of Tom Cruise...

[legate]

I was sure that it wouldn't be but now it seems to me that the next Total War will be Victoria: Total War or whatever title it gets Basically the 19th Century, Crimean War, American Civil War, Opium Wars, Zulu War, Boer Wars etc etc. Thats my guess anyway

[AK47]

I was sure that it wouldn't be but now it seems to me that the next Total War will be Victoria: Total War or whatever title it gets Basically the 19th Century, Crimean War, American Civil War, Opium Wars, Zulu War, Boer Wars etc etc. Thats my guess anyway

I'd like to see that a 19th century total war covering nearly the whole globe like ETW which allows for all those wars you suggested. I hope they do it.
I am not a big fan of "Campaign that takes place during a few years and thats is all" like NTW.
I like to see my faction leader die of old age and successor take over, generals age and die, and in just a few years time it doenst make sense for towns to turn into major economic centers in just a few weeks.
Shogun, Medieval, Rome, Empire etc did that and were great.

[legate]

I'd like to see that a 19th century total war covering nearly the whole globe like ETW which allows for all those wars you suggested. I hope they do it.
I am not a big fan of "Campaign that takes place during a few years and thats is all" like NTW.
I like to see my faction leader die of old age and successor take over, generals age and die, and in just a few years time it doenst make sense for towns to turn into major economic centers in just a few weeks.
Shogun, Medieval, Rome, Empire etc did that and were great.

Yeah, would be good

[Outlawstar15a2]

I'd like to see that a 19th century total war covering nearly the whole globe like ETW which allows for all those wars you suggested. I hope they do it.
I am not a big fan of "Campaign that takes place during a few years and thats is all" like NTW.
I like to see my faction leader die of old age and successor take over, generals age and die, and in just a few years time it doenst make sense for towns to turn into major economic centers in just a few weeks.
Shogun, Medieval, Rome, Empire etc did that and were great.

That's how Creative Assembly and the Total War franchise got into this mess to begin with. CA! You had it right with Shogun 2 stay small, concentrate on a particular theatre and slowly expand outward... You did it in the beginning but I think you lost something in translation over the years.... I am glad to see Shogun 2 returning to the roots and focusing on a smaller area.

I think we TW players also lost sight of what Total War originally meant... Forgive me if I seemed rude. I must ponder this further.

EDIT: To be honest I would actually like to see a Rome 2 Total War after Shogun 2. Shogun and Medieval got a modern remake.... Why not little old Rome?

[M2TWRocks]

Think earlier.

Taiping Rebellion and the Ever Victorious army led by an Englishman with a an elite corps of Filipino bodyguards....

Oh and Jet Li instead of Tom Cruise...

Around the 2 minute mark a soldier yells, "aaaaaah," and the subtitle says "kill them." Lol. It happens a few times after that as well.

[Davidicus II]

Screw anything after the 16th Century, in my opinion. Warfare was in that awkward period of trying to be modern, yet clinging on to outdated mechanics. Not fun. Anything after World War I probably wouldn't work well in the Total War philosophy, so let's head back. Back, back to the good ol' days, back when one empire made the Mediterranean their lake. And let's do it right this time .

Now, I feel stupid for asking, but what the hell is FotS?

[Chevalier IX]

Fots is fall of the samurai the new stand alone expansion

[AlfonsoVIII]

remember, they made napoleon and pretty much did not carry much over for shogun 2. dont see any reason why next tw game after fots has to include any fots gameplay/footage.

[hochmeister devin]

WW1 total war all the way! seriously though WW1 total war would be so fun, tanks, artillery, MGs, infantry, cavalry, dreadnoughts, fighters, bombers, zeplins, gas, and railway artilery youd still have battles in the total war sense, since armys still fought in formation.

[Hresvelgr]

WW1 total war all the way! seriously though WW1 total war would be so fun, tanks, artillery, MGs, infantry, cavalry, dreadnoughts, fighters, bombers, zeplins, gas, and railway artilery youd still have battles in the total war sense, since armys still fought in formation.

They didn't fight in formation, they just happened to have lots of people rushing out at once. And how would you possibly represent zeppelins or airplanes in a Total War game?

[Nordmann]

Anything past the late 1890s is going to be hard to pull off in a Total War game, so I suspect they will stick to pre-20th century warfare. Rome 2 should be a priority, if they have any sense left at all.

[Hresvelgr]

Anything past the late 1890s is going to be hard to pull off in a Total War game, so I suspect they will stick to pre-20th century warfare. Rome 2 should be a priority, if they have any sense left at all.

I'd welcome a Rome 2 if they changed from their current style, that is unmoddable games that continue to have some of the same old features plaguing them, like the ridiculous color coding. The only game that wasn't badly color-coded was Napoleon, but every other one is just an eyesore until mods are applied.

[Nordmann]

I'd welcome a Rome 2 if they changed from their current style, that is unmoddable games that continue to have some of the same old features plaguing them, like the ridiculous color coding. The only game that wasn't badly color-coded was Napoleon, but every other one is just an eyesore until mods are applied.

Agreed. Vanilla Rome was awful, same with the expansion, and Alexander. M2TW wasn't too bad, but they really should move away from faction coloured armour, it's just bloody annoying to look at. If they could at least tone down the brightness that would be something.

[King Sama]

Methinks ww1. New direction, in line with many new features of FotS, and quite untouched in the game market. Honestly, I can't imagine them doing a full scale Victorian Total War, it's simply too huge if they want to properly represent it and I doubt they have already forgotten the lessons of Empire... not that I'd personally be against it. And smaller conflicts within that somehow don't seem fitting scale for their big new title.

They didn't fight in formation, they just happened to have lots of people rushing out at once. And how would you possibly represent zeppelins or airplanes in a Total War game?

Agents. Planes were rarely used in direct engagements, and I believe it was only in the Spanish civil war when this was tactic was fully implemented. And I find myself doubting how "formed", say, medieval infantry was during an attack.

[Prof]

We've seen enough gunpowder era Total War games since 2009...I say it is time for Rome 2, the Rise of Rome DLC and the Fall of Rome stand-alone addon.

[Hans Schormmer]

unless CA introduces something really revolutionary am done with their games. Vanilla shogun 2 is a good game, but I hate all DLC idea.

If they go back in time it will just be another variation of things already seen (medieval10/rome2/ancientgreece/shogun4/napoleonic2) or something not very appealling to me (zulu/crymean/victorian... boring, local, mechanics same as we saw before)

I would like to play a WWI total war with real time modes for naval battles, land battles and aerial combat. But that would be better a game designed by Relic.. so it is by by CA

[Hallow]

No more Asia please. kthxbai.