Idea: RTW: Primo Victoria (An Itally Unification vanila mod)

[hameleona]

You know, i've been working on that for around a year now. Mostly obtaining the skills i need. First, excuse my bad English. I'm better at speaking it, than in writing. So, hat it's the mod all about?

We start at 550BC - a time of importance. Ethruscans are (as far as i know) at the peak of their power. Rome is still a small city state. We have Gauls in Italy, on the north, samnites in central Italy, south Italy is still in greek hands.

We have the constant Ilirians just across the see to the west, and carthage, thats struggles for power. It's a great sup of power hungry tribes, leags and kingdoms. War will rage trough the plane, and i think it's going to be interesting for playing. So, what do I want to do you'll ask? And, what do i need?

Mostly, i need a mapper. I just can't handle maps. I can handle the descr_strat, but i can't do the map. Tried many times to expand the Sons of Mars map, but with little success... So, i need a mapper. I'll upload a map of the needed area in this post.

I'll need a researcher, couse i know to little about the etruscans, allthou i have ideas for their roster.

And what about the factions?

The House of Julii
They'll become the Roman Republic. Plausible unit rooster: roman hoplites (in three teirs: Hastatii, Principes, Triarii the later the better) , equites. Post marian (actually post camilian) hastatii (swordsmen), principes (spearmen), triarii (hoplites), velites.

The House of Brutii
They'll become The Samnite Tribes. Plausible unit rooster: samnite velites (javelinman), samnite hastatii (the samnite mercenaries from vanilia), samnite heavy infantry (swordsmen), samnite hoplites, samnite cavalry.
Barbarians.

The House of Scipii
They'll become The Etruscan League. Unit rooster: (needs research!!!): Etruscan Levys (light hoplites), Etruscan Hoplites, Etruscan Sacred Band (elite hoplites), Etruscan Youth (javelinman), Etruscan Light Cavalry, Etruscan Medium Cavalry.
Greek units, roman culture

The Greek City States
They'll be the... Greeks. As far as i know, the greeks in the region wore in one league. If not - i'll split the in two. For now their unit rooster is as it is in vanila.

Carthage
they need research. And some scripts, to boost them, couse they'll have few regions. For now i know, that they'll have a sacred band unit. Nothing more.

Gauls.
No changes, except visual - longshields, and stuff like that.

Illyrians
I'll change the britons to the illyirians. Rooster: Warband (helmets and longshields), peltast, illyrian hoplites (heavy infantry), Nobles (heavy infantry), illyrian peltast (heavy peltast), illirian cavalry (light cavalry), illyrian slingers, illyrian chariots.

Still thinking for other factions. But i'll need research. Ligurie, Massalians, maybe eaven the brutian tribes? I'll need help with the research.

So, if i can persuade anyone to join me. I'm not in a hurry, after all i'm working on HRTW as a modeler.

The Map!

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that is the region i want to include. Maybe around 60 or 70 regions. That is what's in my mind. If you have ideas and cet. - write freely! I'm an open-minded person.

And, yes, i know, for the RTWI. But i want something more small, and more vanilia. And mine (wasntme)

[TwoKnives]

Firstly I shall correct you about a primary grammar mistake; it's Illyrians, not Illirians. I like the idea, however i shall do some historical corrections. The Sacred Band was a military unit of the Greek city-state of Thebes. It had 300 men (ironically) and all of them were homosexual couples, as the Thebans thought that if soldiers fought alongside their lovers, they would become invincible. This was proven wrong as Alexander defeated and killed all of them at Chaeronea in 338 BC, but they were very effective in battle. So if anything The Greek City-States must have this unit. Also the Illyrian roster is too "vanilla-barbarian". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illyria...are#Army_units Check the link for more info on the Illyrian unit roster. I'm also researching for Carthage and the Etruscan League, I'll send you the info on them as soon as possible.

[hameleona]

As I said - research is always welcome. I'll see about the illyrians, and will update them. I don't have time to create new units (working on the HRTW, after all) but soon i'll start the text work - renaming and stuff. Thanks for the tip, i'll take it in account.

PS: fixed the illyrian rooster for now.

[ahowl11]

Very good idea! Why not start around 330 B.C.? When the Romans were fighting the Samnites.. Also Paeninsula Italica is a mod that focuses just on Italy but not vanilla. Maybe use it for inspiration?

[Caesar15]

the Carthaginians still had some form of sacred band in sicily

[hameleona]

For now, the idea is suspended. I have a lot of work for HRTW, that doesn't give me much time for work.

The start date is 550 - so we have ethruscans, samnites, brutii, greeks, syracusians, chartaginians, gauls and illyrians. Still haven't done even the basic research. But I do not shoot for a Historical mod. I wanted to make really vanilla stile mod - not that historical, but fun and centered on the game play. I started and continue to be primary interested in game-design, not modeling

[ahowl11]

understandable.. its your mod, if you ever need assistance im good with the descr_strat file, and im good at researching

[hameleona]

first, we need to finish the work on HRTW, for now. Then i'll make our first sub-mod with my version of the recruitment system.
And then, i will work on Primo Victoria.
And maybe some day I'll have to make my thracian mod... hell, i've got a lot of plans... but i must do one thing at a time

[ahowl11]

I have many plans for many submods of HRTW.. HRTW: The Rise of the Republic, HRTW: Alexander, HRTW: Barbarian Invasion, etc

[Spike]

I have many plans for many submods of HRTW.. HRTW: The Rise of the Republic, HRTW: Alexander, HRTW: Barbarian Invasion, etc

you obviously need to trim up and learn to commit yourself into some focused projects, having a lot of ideas is good in principle, but in practice, you must concentrate in some things you deemed "better priorities" to get things allready done...

for a starter, I actually want to put a pony faction in Near East TW, lead by Princess Celestia and the gang, they'll have basic "Liberated Equines" as their levies, several MLP-accurate type of troops, and their bodyguard are Pony Royal Guards, not to mention, there's indeed animation for Flying units in RTW, I just can use them for Pegassus Squadron or such...

but then, it didn't mix well , have you consider what horror will the Assyrians, Babylonians, Egyptians, and Lidians get in their eyes, looking that they are invaded by Purple, Pink, Blue, Yellow, Orange, and White (with purple mane) Ponies?, not to mention Royal Guards that worn Hellenistic armour, but they are Ponies ...

and oh, little purple Dragon who breath green flames and eat their gems

[El Santo Padre]

Very nice idea man! +rep

[ahowl11]

wow all of that because i said i had ideas

[Spike]

wow all of that because i said i had ideas

but at least I know to limit myself and not creating ponies before the other factions are done unlike you

[ahowl11]

have no idea what your talking about.. i just work on Historical Rome Total War 1.0

[Spike]

have no idea what your talking about.. i just work on Historical Rome Total War 1.0

let's talk bout it somewhere else ; I've advising you on this matter too much...

[hameleona]

Now, i have freed my time, and i'll actually do some work on the mod these days.

Ozman, will you think about making the map? Jus think of it, for now i'll use the Sons of Mars map, but it's to small.

I won't say no to researchers, but the mod is not meant to be "Historical!!!". It's just a vanilla mod, whit what we can have fun in italy, making all the locals kill themselves

[hameleona]

Haven't made much of a progress for now - just two units form around 100 planned
Yeah, i'm slow. But here you go: Samnite Tribal Warrior and a Samnite Noble

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There soon will be some more infantry units. I promise

[Asgaroth]

Thanks for the help men.