[solved] papal_states coding problems (!!!)

**SpyrosM91** · November 20, 2011, 10:14 AM

A) i want to add this guy to the papal states:

Code:

character    Niccolus Corrigarius, general, male, age 36, x 96, y 141
army
unit        SE Bodyguard                exp 3 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Mailed Knights                exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Papal Guard                exp 3 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Papal Guard                exp 3 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Papal Guard                exp 5 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Papal Guard                exp 5 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

but the problem is that if i add him, then the campaing doesn't start, and i return to the main menu...

1. the log doesn't show any error about that
2. the units are valid
3. the coordinates are valid
4. the descr_names file is:

Code:

faction: papal_states

    characters
        Abbate
        Accattus
        Aczo
        Aiutus
        Albertus
        Albizus
        Alcabe
        Alexander
        Alexius
        Alferius
        Amatus
        Andreas
        Angellus
        Arrigus
        Bandinus
        Barone
        Benectus
        Benencasa
        Bernardus
        Biancus
        Bonus
        Borghese
        Buonacorsus
        Canbius
        Conpangnus
        Datus
        Domencius
        Donatus
        Falcone
        Filippus
        Froderigus
        Gaitanus
        Gherardus
        Giannis
        Gionta
        Gratianus
        Gregory
        Gualandus
        Guido
        Iacobus
        Iohannes
        Lanbertus
        Lanfrancus
        Leonardus
        Lutterius
        Maczeus
        Marcus
        Martinus
        Miccele
        Nero
        Niccolus
        Oddus
        Orlandus
        Orsellus
        Pagenellus
        Petrus
        Pierus
        Pisanus
        Ranerius
        Renaldus
        Rubertus
        Salvi
        Saracinus
        Simon
        Stephanus
        Strenna
        Talentus
        Tomascius
        Ubaldus
        Ugo
        Ugolinus
        Ventura
        Villanus
        Vitalis
        Vivianus
        Zappa

    surnames
        Accorsi
        Alberti
        Albizi
        Alexii
        Altilie
        Amichi
        Arcadore
        Arcarius
        Arlocti
        Arrigi
        Aurifex
        Bacarelli
        Baldovini
        Banbacarius
        Bancherius
        Banchiere
        Bandini
        Barberius
        Baronis
        Batacti
        Beccus
        Benenati
        Benencase
        Bernardi
        Bocca
        Boctarius
        Borsarius
        Bruni
        Bursarius
        Caldolarius
        Calzolarius
        Capellarius
        Capitaneus
        Coiarius
        Corrigarius
        Corsus
        Ervarius
        Faber
        Falconis
        Ferraius
        Fornarius
        Gherardi
        Guidi
        Iacobi
        Iannis
        Lanberti
        Martini
        Medicus
        Morelli
        Notarius
        Nuntius
        Olearius
        Orlandi
        Pannarius
        Pellarius
        Petri
        Picconis
        Pieri
        Ranerii
        Renaldi
        Rossus
        Rubeus
        Sensalis
        Soavizi
        Specialis
        Vicini
        Vinarius
;;bynames
        de Avena
        de Fabro
        de Fondaco
        de Sala
        de Spino
        Florentinus
        de Spina
        Arlocti
        de Bangno
        de Canpo
        de Cantone
        de Catallo
        de Orticaio
        de Vecchio
        Pistoriensis
        de Alario
        de Arizio
        de Balneo
        de Bargio
        de Bello
        de Biancho
        de Buona
        de Calce
        de Caldera
        de Cardinale
        de casa Lei
        de Cava
        de Cinabro
        de Corso
        de Dingna
        de Embolo
        de Fabro
        de Fagiano
        de Ferro
        de Giallo
        de Grasso
        de Guardia
        de Lama
        de Magio
        de Massa
        de Modina
        de Nino
        de Occhio
        de Paulo
        de Pisce
        de Puccio
        de Turchio
        de Turri
        de Verde
        de Vico
        de Volta

    women
        Adelasia
        Aiguana
        Altadonna
        Amata
        Angela
        Bella
        Beldina
        Benedacta
        Benvenuta
        Berta
        Bona
        Bruna
        Clara
        Complita
        Conciata
        Dialta
        Divitia
        Druda
        Flore
        Gilia
        Iacoba
        Letitia
        Lucia
        Margarita
        Maria
        Massaria
        Palmeria
        Pera
        Pleneria
        Riccha
        Rosana
        Santesa
        Savia
        Sibilia
        Stefania
        Verde
        Verdiana
        Ysa

B) i try to place a rebel army [in the descr_strat], inside the only city (it's also vacant) that the papal_states have.... Rome.... the thing is that if i place the rebels next to the city, they appear... if i place them directly on the (vacant) city, they don't.... the city remains vacant and under the control of the Papacy.... what is the problem here??? how can i start the game with the pope not having a single region...???

appreciate any help...

**Emperor of Hell** · November 20, 2011, 10:16 AM

I'm not sure, can captains have surnames?

**attyla** · November 20, 2011, 10:24 AM

yes it can but i know nothing about urban crossbow militia.

**SpyrosM91** · November 20, 2011, 10:22 AM

well, i copied that from a SS6.3 input:

Code:

character    Nicolaus Corrigarius, general, male, age 36, x 168, y 149 
traits GovernorInclination 1 , NaturalMilitarySkill 1 , GoodCommander 1 , PublicFaith 2 , GoodAdministrator 1 , Intelligent 1  , ReligionStarter 1 
army
unit        SE Bodyguard                exp 3 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Mailed Knights                exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Papal Guard                exp 3 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Papal Guard                exp 3 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Papal Guard                exp 3 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Papal Guard                exp 3 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Papal Guard                exp 5 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Papal Guard                exp 5 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Papal Guard                exp 5 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Papal Guard                exp 5 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Urban Crossbow Militia            exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Urban Crossbow Militia            exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Urban Crossbow Militia            exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit        Urban Crossbow Militia            exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

**Emperor of Hell** · November 20, 2011, 10:27 AM

OK, that won't be a problem then

Are you using
[log]
to = logs/system.log.txt
level=*script* trace

**SpyrosM91** · November 20, 2011, 10:28 AM

yes, as you can see in my 1st post on top, i have deleted the Urban crossbowmilitia, because they don't exist in my EDU...

**attyla** · November 20, 2011, 10:34 AM

have you added "end" in the end of script added units?

**SpyrosM91** · November 20, 2011, 10:34 AM

@killersmurf, yes i use that option, but nothing appears....

**SpyrosM91** · November 20, 2011, 10:35 AM

@attyla, it's in the descr_strat....

**attyla** · November 20, 2011, 10:40 AM

So there is one only way. You need to make it again. Restore old version of your descr_strat and add this army again. Do not copy it. Make it tetter by letter.

**valvegas1** · November 21, 2011, 12:29 AM

a few ideas....

1st: try and change the name to something else, if it works with a new name then you should check all the names files (data\text\names.txt, data\descr_names.txt, data\descr_names_lookup.txt ) to make sure the names exist in every one...or you can try the names verifier in this thread...

2nd: check your spacing, i had this happen to me once and it turned out that i had one word off by one space and it would ctd back to main menu....

3rd: try deleting the bodyguard unit, i'm not sure but i think you can only have bodyguard units for named characters....

a few suggestions to try...hope it helps mate....good luck

**Withwnar** · November 21, 2011, 01:04 AM

Originally Posted by valvegas1

check your spacing, i had this happen to me once and it turned out that i had one word off by one space and it would ctd back to main menu....

I'm not sure about descr_strat but campaign_script requires a tab after the unit name, not spaces.

The bodyguard could be it though. I'd be interested to hear if that was the cause.

Originally Posted by SpyrosM91

i try to place a rebel army [in the descr_strat], inside the only city (it's also vacant) that the papal_states have.... Rome.... the thing is that if i place the rebels next to the city, they appear... if i place them directly on the (vacant) city, they don't.... the city remains vacant and under the control of the Papacy.... what is the problem here??? how can i start the game with the pope not having a single region...???

If the city belongs to the papal states then small wonder that you can't put another faction's army in there. Even if it's vacant.

Could you remove that city from papal state ownership in descr_strat? Give it to the rebels instead. I don't know if that would cause problems.

**valvegas1** · November 21, 2011, 02:52 AM

Originally Posted by Withwnar

I'm not sure about descr_strat but campaign_script requires a tab after the unit name, not spaces.

The bodyguard could be it though. I'd be interested to hear if that was the cause.

If the city belongs to the papal states then small wonder that you can't put another faction's army in there. Even if it's vacant.

Could you remove that city from papal state ownership in descr_strat? Give it to the rebels instead. I don't know if that would cause problems.

removing it in descr_strat should work but only if the papal_states has the hording ability...also i was recently playing around with this stuff too and by accident i forgot to remove a settlement from a faction and tried to put my army in it and i would get a crash back to main menu...when i figured it out and switched it it worked just fine....also if you try to put someone else army in a settlement already occupied you'll get a crash as well...might be some ideas to look at SpyrosM91

**SpyrosM91** · November 22, 2011, 03:29 PM

it probably must have been the bodyguard.... because i copied a new entry from the vanilla, and there wasn't any... i wonder how to SS6 didn't have any problem with that...

anyway... i removed Rome, anf gave it to the rebels, and there wasn't any problem...

**valvegas1** · November 22, 2011, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by SpyrosM91

it probably must have been the bodyguard.... because i copied a new entry from the vanilla, and there wasn't any... i wonder how to SS6 didn't have any problem with that...

anyway... i removed Rome, anf gave it to the rebels, and there wasn't any problem...

good to hear...glad you got everything working...not sure myself how SS6 does it...could shoot the modder a message and ask i guess...