Marian Reform???

[Apolloa]

When will the marian reform and date takes place???? When in Marian Reform i can recruit roman units at any region????

[postm00v]

From the FAQ :

-At least the year 172BC
-Have more than 6 Latifundia built in Italy
-Hold at least 45 settlements
-Have a character that is:
Sharp/Charismatic/Vigorous
Popularis
Consul or Ex-Consul
Has Influence > 2
Has Command > 2
OR
-Conquer 90 settlements.

[Entropy Judge]

When in Marian Reform i can recruit roman units at any region????

Any region? No, just a lot of them.

[Yomamashouse]

Oh look, its this thread again.

[Stingray970]

Oh look, it's that comment again...

[Bob Doad]

hey i thought i would ask here since this is here anyways i have multiple generals with legions conquering in both Anatolia and Iberia i believe three of which are Sharp/Charismatic/Vigorous and popularis and i want to know wat can i do to get them to be consuls

[XSamatan]

They need a certain amount of influence, you can achieve this by sending them into heroic battles, govern cities with academies. Bear in mind that there is just a random chance that a character gains a trait.

XSamatan

[Bob Doad]

k cool i mean he is like my faction leader with almost perfect everything and it is kinda pissing me off i might get 90 settlements before this happens also with the Augustus reforms how likely are those to ever happen and is there a thread to ask as well as should i make a thread to discuss just the roman reforms/units in general

[zamolxe]

Hi guys,

I am in 178 BC, I have 90 regions/settlements and no Marian reform. The second rule for the Marian reform states "Conquer 90 settlements". Does it mean I have to conquer 90 on top of the initial 3 or whatever I had when I started the game? So a total of 93 regions/settlements?

[TWWolfe]

Hi guys,

I am in 178 BC, I have 90 regions/settlements and no Marian reform. The second rule for the Marian reform states "Conquer 90 settlements". Does it mean I have to conquer 90 on top of the initial 3 or whatever I had when I started the game? So a total of 93 regions/settlements?

Its 172 BC, wait 6 more turns

[Ferdiad]

Hi guys,

I am in 178 BC, I have 90 regions/settlements and no Marian reform. The second rule for the Marian reform states "Conquer 90 settlements". Does it mean I have to conquer 90 on top of the initial 3 or whatever I had when I started the game? So a total of 93 regions/settlements?

Its conditional, it dosn't trigger when you get it.

[Darios]

I am writing this on behalf of a friend who is a huge Romanophile. He's essentially lost his motivation to play EB because he's having the utmost difficulty in reaching the Marian reforms. He's having problems gathering the necessary regions because by 200 b.c. the Greek factions have full stacks of elite phalanxes that Polybian troops can't really defeat according to him. He tends to plow through Carthage, Iberia, and Gaul fairly easily with Polybian troops but the Greek factions are ruining his life. He told me that his armies tend to win battles, but in the process lose so many troops that he's forced to retire back to Italy to retrain them. I suggested that he invest more in regional slingers that are capable of destroying phalanxes from the rear. Would you guys have any other suggestions to offer?

[Captain_Aramsham]

Use spies to cause some of the Greek cities to rebel. That should give them a few headaches. I tend to pad my Roman armies with lots of cheap local levy troops (Lugoae, Illyroi Paraktioi, that sort of thing). They're cheap, they're expendable, they're easily replaced, and they're not Romans . I use these to bear the brunt of the phalangites' impact, then send my Roman infantry round the flanks to break 'em. The levy troops will get badly chewed up, but that's what they're for, and as long as you keep your general relatively close by they should hold on long enough for your Romans to finish the job.

[Entropy Judge]

He's having problems gathering the necessary regions because by 200 b.c. the Greek factions have full stacks of elite phalanxes that Polybian troops can't really defeat according to him.

Really? I haven't had problems taking out phalangite armies using Polybians ... he isn't playing on VH Battle, is he? Anyway, quick-and-dirty answer? Take Greece before they get rolling. Seriously, Iberia isn't terribly dangerous later on so it can wait, and if you storm Illyria and Macedon around the 240s-230s, you shouldn't have any trouble just murdering their armies.

He told me that his armies tend to win battles, but in the process lose so many troops that he's forced to retire back to Italy to retrain them. I suggested that he invest more in regional slingers that are capable of destroying phalanxes from the rear. Would you guys have any other suggestions to offer?

Pick up units that are used only to distract the front of phalangites, as suggested earlier. Levy units, the Galatian Shortswordsmen that are in the area, and similar units are good for this. Alternatively, go the super-heavy route, and use Triarii or Neitos in Defensive Formation to keep the pikes busy. While that's going on, use Pedites Extraordinarii or - much, much better - Thrakian Peltastai (Mercenaries in the Balkans/Greece) to attack from behind/flanking. Aggressive use of heavy cavalry can also work - draw the pikes out of formation, make them tired, and charge isolated units with 3-4 good cavalry (Equites Extraordinarii, Thessalian Heavies, and so on, but *not* Brihentin - they don't seem to be quite as good for Shock purposes).

Regional slingers are okay, but you really might as well use Accensi or Iaosatae - Rhodians and Balearics aren't really worth going for a deep strike just to get, and they aren't going to be game-winners. If Accensi/Iaosatae have *almost* enough punch to do it, but not quite, then I'd say it's good to try Rhodians, but I don't think they're really worth the price most of the time.