I'm afraid that if Obama wins reelection...

[James the Red]

I'm afraid that if Obama wins reelection, it will just inspire the yahoos at Fox news and its ilk to step up the fear mongering and increasing the whole conservative frenzy built around hating the president. Not that they will stop if a Republican wins, they just switch focus to Democrats in congress.

I have seen people on Fox news describe Obama as "the worst president our country has ever had" and other such things. Constant reinforcement that Obama is evil. Remember all that 'Birther' nonsense, a whole bunch of people concerned that perhaps (or certain that) Obama wasn't born in America? Or that he is Muslim?

What was with that desire to de-legitimatize the president that many conservatives have? (not that being a Muslim bans you from being president, except if you think the USA is a christian nation)

There are a few scary people in the republican party.







This cant be good for my country, will this trend of 'hating the left and Obama with a fury' decrease or increase with time?

[TheDarkKnight]

I remember a lot of people not having a clue what he would do once he got into office, except that he will "change" things...


By the way, the only bad part of Fox is the commentators like Hannity. The rest is actually pretty good. But whenever people think of Fox they automatically zero in on the later-in-the-day programming, which is just as biased towards the right as the later-in-the-day programming of other channels is to the left.

And I got a video for you too

[Border Patrol]

And I got a video for you too

The guy in that video is awesome!

[YukonTrooper]

Who cares? On the big issues that really matter he's no different than the last guy, and outside of Ron Paul he wouldn't be any different than any of the Republican clowns in the running for 2012.

Think outside of the Democrat/Republican mind-frame. The two-party system is now the establishment that serves the same interests.

[TheDarkKnight]

Who cares? On the big issues that really matter he's no different than the last guy, and outside of Ron Paul he wouldn't be any different than any of the Republican clowns in the running for 2012.

Think outside of the Democrat/Republican mind-frame. The two-party system is now the establishment that serves the same interests.

Pretty much...What has really changed since he came into office? He has continued, for the most part, the wars. Guantanamo Bay remains open, and tons of other things...


The only major thing of note is the healthcare law, which even Congress, the people who passed the bill without even reading it, wants nothing to do with.

He is hardly different. He is the person that was viewed as a savior by the liberals and mostly despised by the conservatives...Now he has lost much of the support from the people who got him into office.

[MathiasOfAthens]

Only major thing is the healthcare law? Try taxes, Infrastructure spending, Science and Education.

[TheDarkKnight]

Only major thing is the healthcare law? Try taxes, Infrastructure spending, Science and Education.

Yeah, I remember him making it frigging ridiculous for me to get a loan for college. I'm essentially paying taxes into my own loan. I had a loan all lined up for college and then all of the sudden it wasn't possible to use it anymore and I had to frantically get a loan before the semester started.

Infrastructure spending...You mean all those projects that, while creating jobs, are mostly unnecessary? There's a project near my home where they are essentially straightening a slightly curved road for millions of dollars. And all the signs for these projects that say "This project is part of the ________"...All of those signs cost millions to put up, all of them telling me the obvious that my tax dollars are being used.

Science (could also apply to infrastructure): Solyndra. Enough said.

And taxes: extending the Bush era tax cuts for the rich. I thought this was an issue. I guess not.

[Ulyaoth]

As in? Don't forget he also does great for consumer confidence.

[Imperial]

Could you think of anything else so trivial to be worried about?

[motiv-8]

Yeah, I remember him making it frigging ridiculous for me to get a loan for college.

Damn, Obama did that? He must have an oddly specific and targetted hatred for you.

Science (could also apply to infrastructure): Solyndra. Enough said.

Enough said? But you haven't said anything, yet. You're going to have to be more specific about this failed Solar Energy manufacturer that was given a guaranteed loan by the federal government after an application process begun in 2007.

Infrastructure spending...You mean all those projects that, while creating jobs, are mostly unnecessary? There's a project near my home where they are essentially straightening a slightly curved road for millions of dollars. And all the signs for these projects that say "This project is part of the ________"...All of those signs cost millions to put up, all of them telling me the obvious that my tax dollars are being used.

Now this actually IS bemusing. I wish I had taken a picture of one of those signs north I saw of Los Angeles next to an empty field and absolutely no work or construction going on.

And taxes: extending the Bush era tax cuts for the rich. I thought this was an issue. I guess not.

Obama's all about getting rid of them, actually, and now the CEO of Google, among other leech-the-rich parasites of the left wing, are with him. Your ire is better directed at Congress for this one.

I have seen people on Fox news describe Obama as "the worst president our country has ever had" and other such things.

We call these "people who don't know anything about American history."

[TheDarkKnight]

Damn, Obama did that? He must have an oddly specific and targetted hatred for you.

Enough said? But you haven't said anything, yet. You're going to have to be more specific about this failed Solar Energy manufacturer that was given a guaranteed loan by the federal government after an application process begun in 2007.

Now this actually IS bemusing. I wish I had taken a picture of one of those signs north I saw of Los Angeles next to an empty field and absolutely no work or construction going on.

Obama's all about getting rid of them, actually, and now the CEO of Google, among other leech-the-rich parasites of the left wing, are with him. Your ire is better directed at Congress for this one.

We call these "people who don't know anything about American history."

It wasn't just me...

As for the CEO's wanting to be taxed more, I'm all for creating a method for millionaires to be able to pay more taxes than their rate...But only if they want to.

I'm also for a flat tax...I don't support tax cuts. But I don't believe that people should have to pay a higher percentage once they pass a certain income level. How is that really fair?

[Ahlerich]

I'm also for a flat tax...I don't support tax cuts. But I don't believe that people should have to pay a higher percentage once they pass a certain income level. How is that really fair?

if you get a flat tax america needs to print more money to pay for its dept. the inflation then will be flat too but still hurt the poorer more. seems like the perfect solution for you.

i dont know much about american politics so i cant contribute much. i just read a few articles here how the republican candidates emberass themselves al the time so even if obama is a bad president i wonder if there is a republican candidate that would be better.

[Phier]

This cant be good for my country, will this trend of 'hating the left and Obama with a fury' decrease or increase with time?

I'm afraid if Obama is reelected he will continue to screw our country economically. I'm not afraid of what someone might say on a youtube video or to a news station.

He IS a crappy president, you just have to accept some of us, well a MAJORITY of us, think he kinda sucks right now.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ..._index_history

The problem isn't Fox news, the problem is policy.

[Mythos]

I'm afraid if Obama is reelected he will continue to screw our country economically. I'm not afraid of what someone might say on a youtube video or to a news station.

Your economy was screwed a long time ago and it will be for a long time more. Obama did not change this because there is quite simply not much he could do. If you think Romney or whoeven wins the Republican vote will even make a dent to the mess you are in, well, we will still be here in a couple of years to hear you moaning how only Ron Paul could save the economy....

[Jedi1]

Your economy was screwed a long time ago and it will be for a long time more. Obama did not change this because there is quite simply not much he could do. If you think Romney or whoeven wins the Republican vote will even make a dent to the mess you are in, well, we will still be here in a couple of years to hear you moaning how only Ron Paul could save the economy....

Their is allot Obama could do to fix the American economy. He could for instance denounce the ponzy scheme financial system and work to institute a new system that is not fundamentally flawed. So could have Bush, but he was a failure as well. But your right if a republican wins the situation will remain the same.

The answer then is to find some one good who is neither.

[Phier]

Your economy was screwed a long time ago and it will be for a long time more. Obama did not change this because there is quite simply not much he could do.

He blew 800 billion or so and wanted to blow 400 billion more.

Its not what he could do, its what he did and wants to do.

[Mythos]

He blew 800 billion or so and wanted to blow 400 billion more.

Its not what he could do, its what he did and wants to do.

That's the nature of bubbles. They are going to burst and you not going to be able to do anything about it.

[Phier]

That's the nature of bubbles. They are going to burst and you not going to be able to do anything about it.

I'm not sure how this relates to Obama's spending orgy.

[Jedi1]

He blew 800 billion or so and wanted to blow 400 billion more.

Its not what he could do, its what he did and wants to do.

Do you think Bush or any of the Republicans would have done much better? They either would have done the same or similar or the economy would have really crashed. The problem is no one in either party will put forward alternatives to the orthodox economics solutions which are just attempts to keep the bloated system running.

[Mr. Scott]

Do you think Bush or any of the Republicans would have done much better? They either would have done the same or similar or the economy would have really crashed. The problem is no one in either party will put forward alternatives to the orthodox economics solutions which are just attempts to keep the bloated system running.

Its a combination of two bad presidents that have put us in our currently precarious situation.

And Bush was the bad kind of conservative anyway . He didn't look at the big picture for one thing.

Its not irrelevant, we can't just print money, it doesn't work that way. He blew 800 billion dollars, it didn't work, and he wanted to blow ANOTHER 400 billion. Added he wants to raise taxes at the same time and won't make cuts unless it includes tax increases. Its idiocy.

But we are printing money, at the expense of the third world. The developing world is experiencing some frightening inflation as a result of Mr. Bernanke's policies; its why many developing nations hate him vehemently.

And whats funny (in a sort of demented way) is that with the EU in shambles, the US can continue to print as much money as we want because there's no alternative to the dollar (its also resulting in an expansion of investment here in the US as investors flee Europe). It is a tad unfair. The developing world is going to have to pay the price for the irresponsibility of the American government.