CTD in Custom Battle screen?

[ToonTotalWar]

When I create a new chariot unit for Persia I get a CTD in the custom battle menu? So each time the game loads fine and once I select the chariot unit in the custom battle menu, the game then CTD's? this happens only to the chariot unit when I try and click on the unit card.

I have the battle_models, export_descr_units, descr_mounts and the export_units, descr_skeletons text files with all the correct entries. All the texture and mesh files are also in the correct folders as per the text entries below?

I have established it is the mesh for the actual chariot and the horse (mount_persia_scythedchariot_lod0.mesh), as I tried another chariot and the game loaded fine? Any ideas what this can be please? Thanks

here is my text entries:

EDU

type             Persian Chariot
dictionary       Persian_Chariot      ; Persian Chariot, f
category         cavalry
class            heavy
voice_type       Heavy
banner faction   main_cavalry
banner holy      crusade_cavalry
soldier          persia_chariotrider, 6, 6, 1
mount            persiascythedchariot
mount_effect     horse +4, camel +2
attributes       sea_faring, hardy, can_withdraw, can_run_amok, frighten_foot, frighten_mounted
formation        7, 11, 13, 16, 2, square
stat_health      1, 4 ;;relatively weak
stat_pri         50, 80, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_simple, piercing, none, 0, 1
;stat_pri_ex      0, 0, 0
stat_pri_attr    no
stat_sec         50, 80, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_simple, piercing, none, 0, 1 
;stat_sec_ex      0, 0, 0
stat_sec_attr    area, ap 
stat_pri_armour  18, 6, 0, metal
;stat_armour_ex   5, 0, 0, 0, 7, 0, 0, metal
stat_sec_armour  15, 5, flesh
stat_heat        1
stat_ground      0, 0, 0, 0  ;0, 1, -6, -1
stat_mental      21, disciplined, highly_trained, lock_morale
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay  0
stat_food        60, 300
stat_cost        1, 1625, 542, 100, 75, 540, 4, 130
armour_ug_levels 0, 1
armour_ug_models persia_chariotrider
ownership        russia
era 2            russia
recruit_priority_offset    25  ;    5
;unit_info        8, 8, 8

battle models DB

27 mount_persia_scythedchariot 
1 1 
55 unit_models/Toons/mount_persia_scythedchariot_lod0.mesh 40000 
1
6 russia
52 unit_models/Toons/persia_chariot_scythed.tga.texture 
52 unit_models/Toons/persia_chariot_scythednorm.texture 
41 unit_sprites/russia_Mount_Pony_sprite.spr 
1 
8 Elephant 
10 fs_chariot 0  
0 0 -1 0 0 0 0 0 0 
19 persia_chariotrider 
1 1 
47 unit_models/Toons/persia_chariotrider_lod0.mesh 6400 
3 
6 france
40 unit_models/Toons/persia_cat.tga.texture 
40 unit_models/Toons/persia_catnorm.texture 
42 unit_sprites/egypt_ME_Bodyguard_sprite.spr 
7 england
40 unit_models/Toons/persia_cat.tga.texture 
40 unit_models/Toons/persia_catnorm.texture 
42 unit_sprites/egypt_ME_Bodyguard_sprite.spr 
6 russia
40 unit_models/Toons/persia_cat.tga.texture 
40 unit_models/Toons/persia_catnorm.texture 
42 unit_sprites/egypt_ME_Bodyguard_sprite.spr 
3
6 france  
45 unit_models/Toons/persia_facesarm.tga.texture 
45 unit_models/Toons/persia_facesarmnorm.texture 0
7 england 
45 unit_models/Toons/persia_facesarm.tga.texture 
45 unit_models/Toons/persia_facesarmnorm.texture 0 
6 russia
45 unit_models/Toons/persia_facesarm.tga.texture 
45 unit_models/Toons/persia_facesarmnorm.texture 0 
1 
8 Elephant 
17 MTW2_Chariot_Crew 0  
1 
21 MTW2_Arquebus_Primary 0 -1 0 0 0 0 0 0

descr_mount

type				persiascythedchariot
class				elephant
model				mount_persia_scythedchariot
radius				3                    ; was 5.5
x_radius			1.3
y_offset			0
height				2.5
mass				25
banner_height			1
bouyancy_offset			3
water_trail_effect		elephant_water_trail
root_node_height		1.0	;was 2.84
attack_delay			0
dead_radius			3.5
tusk_z				3.0
tusk_radius			2.3
riders				2
rider_offset			0.0, -0.75, -1.3 	
rider_offset			0.2, -1.2, -1.3

export_units

{Persian_Chariot_descr_short}Scythed chariots are fearsome devices, covered in scythe blades to cut down any infantry foolish enough to stand still when charged!
{Persian_Chariot_descr} Originally invented in Ancient Mesopotamia by the Hittites, innovated upon by the Egyptians, and perfected by the Persians, Xenophon records the power of the scythed chariot when he noted: "the chariots dashing into Greek ranks, broke up their formation.
{Persian_Chariot}	Persian Chariot

descr_skeleton

type		fs_chariot		;chariots with 2 horses
scale		1.12

anim		default				data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_default.CAS						-fr	-evt:data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_default.evt
anim		stand_a_idle			data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_stand_a_idle.CAS					-fr	-evt:data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_stand_a_idle.evt
anim		stand_a_to_walk			data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_stand_a_to_walk.CAS					-fr	-evt:data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_stand_a_to_walk.evt
anim		stand_a_to_run			data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_stand_a_to_run.CAS					-fr	-evt:data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_stand_a_to_run.evt
anim		stand_a_to_charge		data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_stand_a_to_charge.CAS					-fr	-evt:data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_stand_a_to_charge.evt

anim		stand_a_lf_idle_1		data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_stand_a_hf_idle_1.CAS					-fr
anim		stand_a_lf_idle_2		data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_stand_a_hf_idle_2.CAS					-fr		
anim		stand_a_lf_idle_3		data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_stand_a_hf_idle_1.CAS					-fr		

anim		stand_a_lf_idle_1		data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_stand_a_hf_idle_3.CAS					-fr		


anim		stand_a_turn_45_cw_1		data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_stand_a_turn_45_cw_1.CAS		-mintd:10	-maxtd:68	-evt:data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_stand_a_turn_45_ccw_1.evt
anim		stand_a_turn_45_ccw_1		data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_stand_a_turn_45_ccw_1.CAS		-mintd:10	-maxtd:68	-evt:data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_stand_a_turn_45_ccw_1.evt
anim		stand_a_turn_90_cw_1		data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_stand_a_turn_45_cw_1.CAS		-mintd:67	-maxtd:115	-evt:data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_stand_a_turn_45_cw_1.evt
anim		stand_a_turn_90_ccw_1		data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_stand_a_turn_45_ccw_1.CAS		-mintd:67	-maxtd:115	-evt:data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_stand_a_turn_45_ccw_1.evt

anim		walk				data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_walk.CAS						-fr	-evt:data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_walk.evt
anim		walk_to_run			data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_walk_to_run.CAS						-fr	-evt:data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_walk_to_run.evt
anim		walk_to_stand_a			data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_walk_to_stand_a.CAS					-fr	-evt:data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_walk_to_stand_a.evt

anim		run				data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_run.CAS							-fr	-evt:data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_run.evt
anim		run_to_walk			data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_run_to_charge.CAS					-fr	-evt:data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_run_to_charge.evt
anim		run_to_stand_a			data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_run_to_stand_a.CAS					-fr	-evt:data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_run_to_stand_a.evt
anim		run_to_charge			data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_run_to_walk.CAS						-fr	-evt:data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_run_to_walk.evt

anim		charge				data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_charge.CAS							-evt:data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_charge.evt
anim		charge_attack			data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_charge.CAS					-fr	-if:7	-evt:data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_charge_attack.evt

;;no attack; attack by charging
anim		attack_mid_low_1		data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_stand_a_to_charge_concat_med_elephant_charge_concat_med_elephant_run_to_stand_a.CAS					-fr	-if:7	-evt:data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_stand_a_idle.evt
anim		attack_mid_centre_1		data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_stand_a_to_charge_concat_med_elephant_charge_concat_med_elephant_run_to_stand_a.CAS					-fr -if:7 	-evt:data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_stand_a_idle.evt
anim		attack_mid_high_1		data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_stand_a_to_charge_concat_med_elephant_charge_concat_med_elephant_run_to_stand_a.CAS					-fr -if:7	-evt:data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_stand_a_idle.evt

;anim		attack_mid_low_1		data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_stand_a_idle.CAS					-fr	-evt:data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_stand_a_idle.evt
;anim		attack_mid_centre_1		data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_stand_a_idle.CAS					-fr	-evt:data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_stand_a_idle.evt
;anim		attack_mid_high_1		data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_stand_a_idle.CAS					-fr	-evt:data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_stand_a_idle.evt


;anim		attack_mid_low_1		data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_attack_mid_centre_1.CAS					-fr	-if:34, -evt:data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_attack_mid_low_1.evt
;anim		attack_mid_centre_1		data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_attack_mid_centre_1.CAS					-fr	-if:13	-evt:data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_attack_mid_centre_1.evt
;anim		attack_mid_high_1		data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_attack_mid_high_1.CAS					-fr	-if:21, -evt:data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_attack_mid_high_1.evt

anim		die_forward_1			data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_die_forward_1.CAS					-fr	-evt:data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_die_forward_1.evt
anim		die_backward_1			data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_die_forward_1.CAS					-fr	-evt:data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_die_forward_1.evt


anim		idle_to_swim			data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_stand_a_to_walk.CAS					-fr	-id -0.1, 4.75, 4.84	-if:15
anim		swim_to_idle			data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_walk_to_stand_a.CAS					-fr
anim		swim_idle			data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_stand_a_idle.CAS						-fr
anim		swim				data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_walk.CAS						-fr
anim		swim_attack			data/animations/fs_chariot/med_elephant_attack_mid_centre_1.CAS						-fr	-id 0.0, 4.17, 5.21		-if:13

[Moon]

Animations and descr_skeleton file.

[ToonTotalWar]

Animations and descr_skeleton file.

They are both correct as the fs_chariot entry is in the descr_skeleton text file. there is no fs_chariot entry in the Animation's folder though?

[Moon]

Take a look at Bwian's working chariot and compare yours to his.
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/downl...o=file&id=2239

[ToonTotalWar]

Take a look at Bwian's working chariot and compare yours to his.
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/downl...o=file&id=2239

Thanks mate, will look at and report back! +rep

[ToonTotalWar]

Still getting the CTD in custom battle screen? the only thing I have changed is the creation of the "fs_chariot" folder in the "animations folder?

[ToonTotalWar]

anyone still help with this error please?

[danny X]

Have you checked all the sprites and textures are where they should be? Refer to the chariots entry in the model.db
for the sprites and textures, if you have missed one it will say in the log, but it may be a few a lines up from the bottom and iirc it WONT be an error entry.
What does the log report say?

[ToonTotalWar]

Have you checked all the sprites and textures are where they should be? Refer to the chariots entry in the model.db
for the sprites and textures, if you have missed one it will say in the log, but it may be a few a lines up from the bottom and iirc it WONT be an error entry.
What does the log report say?

Attached log report mate, I cannot see anything in there that is incorrect? I checked the sprites and they are present as well.

[danny X]

Yeah logs clear, you could try a trace log.

Here Gigantus told you to remove these descr_mount entries http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...2#post10625012 , one of them is for a chariot, have you added it back again?

[ToonTotalWar]

Yeah logs clear, you could try a trace log.

Here Gigantus told you to remove these descr_mount entries http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...2#post10625012 , one of them is for a chariot, have you added it back again?

Yes mate, I have added them back otherwise my chariot will not work in game? the chariot needs the descr_mount entry to work properly

here is trace log

[danny X]

That log doesn't appear to give any clues either!

Try the chariot in a campaign battle, use the create_unit command etc, to make 100% sure it is the chariot. Double check you have everything in the right place. Sorry i cant give you an answer for the problem, maybe you could contact Eothese or Anthonius, someone who knows units and mounts etc.

[ToonTotalWar]

That log doesn't appear to give any clues either!

Try the chariot in a campaign battle, use the create_unit command etc, to make 100% sure it is the chariot. Double check you have everything in the right place. Sorry i cant give you an answer for the problem, maybe you could contact Eothese or Anthonius, someone who knows units and mounts etc.

Thanks mate for trying to help out.

What is this I read about having to re pack animations? do you know of this method?

[danny X]

Thanks mate for trying to help out.

What is this I read about having to re pack animations? do you know of this method?

Not something i've done im afraid, so i've never looked into it, check out the tools, resources and tutorial section, there's bound to be some info about it there!

[ToonTotalWar]

Ok seem to be moving forward with this problem! the game now only CTD's when I place the cursor on the unit card in custom battle screen?? any ideas on what this can be?

[irishron]

Entries int he export_units.txt?

[ToonTotalWar]

Entries int he export_units.txt?

{Egyptian_Chariot_descr_short} Scythed chariots are fearsome devices, covered in scythe blades to cut down any infantry foolish enough to stand still when charged!
{Egyptian_Chariot_descr} Originally invented in Ancient Mesopotamia by the Hittites, innovated upon by the Egyptians, and perfected by the Persians, Xenophon records the power of the scythed chariot when he noted: the chariots dashing into Greek ranks, broke up their formation.
{Egyptian_Chariot} Egyptian Chariot Bodyguard

I dont think there is anything wrong with the entry? the unit name matches the EDU.

[ToonTotalWar]

ok I tried another chariot type and that worked (Britons Chariot)!! so I have established there is a problem with the mesh, but having looked at the file all looks fine?

[danny X]

Similar thread here, it sounds very similar. http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=494861

[ToonTotalWar]

Similar thread here, it sounds very similar. http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=494861

yeah, it is exactly the same as my problem. But I have my mount named correctly as it is part of the chariot model, so i am no further forward.