TATW Unofficial patch 4.0

**AWRA** · April 15, 2018, 03:46 AM

leo:

Do I understand that your settlement creations for your 4.0 Alt patch are parallel efforts to Arkay's over at DaC, but that both submods cross-use some of each other's work?

**Araval** · April 15, 2018, 03:51 AM

If you'd like more ideas for new custom settlements then maybe Mount Gram and ruined Lond Daer?

**Arkay** · April 15, 2018, 04:15 AM

Originally Posted by leo.civil.uefs

Im happy I decided to improve Azanulimbar Dum. The old extremely dark textures are gone, it has now new models and the looks were mostly changed. Still the same layout from before. Preview is out.

Originally Posted by AWRA

Do I understand that your settlement creations for your 4.0 Alt patch are parallel efforts to Arkay's over at DaC, but that both submods cross-use some of each other's work?

Yes we share each other's work.

**leo.civil.uefs** · April 15, 2018, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by Araval

If you'd like more ideas for new custom settlements then maybe Mount Gram and ruined Lond Daer?

As far as I know there is no settlement in mount gram, its just a mount, orcs don't build fortress. Or am I wrong?

Lond Daer would use generic gondorian buildings, maybe would end up cool but I'm a little bt bored of generic buildings.

**Araval** · April 15, 2018, 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by leo.civil.uefs

As far as I know there is no settlement in mount gram, its just a mount, orcs don't build fortress. Or am I wrong?

If it was said that "the Goblins of Mont Gram" had a King/Chieftain and they invaded the Shire, I doubt that they were just living scattered on top of the mountain but rather inside it. If they were capable of "... tunnel and mine as well as any but the most skilled dwarves, when they take the trouble, though they are usually untidy and dirty", then I think they would also be capable of making a settlement inside a mountain. Btw, in DCI:LA they can also build all castle levels above the ground aswell, though I can't remember now where are the arguments listed for it.

**leo.civil.uefs** · April 15, 2018, 09:51 PM

Originally Posted by Araval

If it was said that "the Goblins of Mont Gram" had a King/Chieftain and they invaded the Shire, I doubt that they were just living scattered on top of the mountain but rather inside it. If they were capable of "... tunnel and mine as well as any but the most skilled dwarves, when they take the trouble, though they are usually untidy and dirty", then I think they would also be capable of making a settlement inside a mountain. Btw, in DCI:LA they can also build all castle levels above the ground aswell, though I can't remember now where are the arguments listed for it.

I dont think this is enough to justify the creation of a settlements.
Also, I've came to the point where I can't mod anymore for now, I know that feelling from each time I was about to release a new update.
The new version is ready. I'm just waiting for some files from another modder and then I will release it, next days probably.

Meanwhile, I will try to amend the terrain around GoblinTown. Just the terrain, to integrate it properly with the mountains and make it look more like Moria instead of an isolated rock dome, nothing great.

Thanks for the suggestions anyway!

**Araval** · April 15, 2018, 10:43 PM

I see from the log that you've abandoned this Ost-in-Edhil, why?

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

**leo.civil.uefs** · April 16, 2018, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by Araval

I see from the log that you've abandoned this Ost-in-Edhil, why?

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

I was afraid some of you would ask for it before I was free of my own pain.

I've made some STUPID, UNFORGIVABLE mistake and accidentaly LOST the files.
I dont even want to talk about this because it makes me remember the pain I felt when I realized I should not be using shift + del all the time.
Yes, I accidentally lost this version of Ost-il-Edhil.

So I decided to do something different. As it is explained in the changelog now. KK's elven large city always looked too "unique" to me. Specially the terrain, it does not look like a generic settlement that would repeat there and there. So I've made a ruined version of it and there is our new Ost-il-Edhil.

**MIKE GOLF** · April 16, 2018, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by leo.civil.uefs

I was afraid some of you would ask for it before I was free of my own pain.

I've made some STUPID, UNFORGIVABLE mistake and accidentaly LOST the files.
I dont even want to talk about this because it makes me remember the pain I felt when I realized I should not be using shift + del all the time.
Yes, I accidentally lost this version of Ost-il-Edhil.

So I decided to do something different. As it is explained in the changelog now. KK's elven large city always looked too "unique" to me. Specially the terrain, it does not look like a generic settlement that would repeat there and there. So I've made a ruined version of it and there is our new Ost-il-Edhil.

I know your pain, for the last 2 and a half months I have been painstakingly rebuilding the RK mod which I had inadvertently deleted and then hit empty recycle bin. At least I kept a changelog so I can go item by item and rebuild it.

**Araval** · April 16, 2018, 02:12 PM

What a tragedy!

Did you try a data recovery tool?

**leo.civil.uefs** · April 16, 2018, 04:03 PM

I tried somethinhgs...

Anyway eont worry about the whole submod. Its safe and have a backup. And its about to be released.

**Ngugi** · April 16, 2018, 04:40 PM

So I've made a ruined version of it and there is our new Ost-il-Edhil.

Mhm, that's a smart idea

**leo.civil.uefs** · April 17, 2018, 03:33 AM

From the changelog:

- Custom tile: Between Erebor and Dale (stratmap campaign, custom battle and reworked historical battle of the five armies)

It ended up being far better than what I first thought. Coolest custom tile ever. Total interaction between the cities of Erebor and Dale, with armies from both cooming to help each other and fight in the iconic battle of the five armies location

**alreadyded** · April 17, 2018, 10:40 PM

Sounds great.

Mirkwood custom tile with trees and spider web decor is an idea, and the two settlements in Eastern Mirkwood could have some simple custom settlements. Though they may just be caves and so not worth doing.

Also, if you aren't already, you can use the custom tiles in groups of instead of just one. So all the tiles between and/or around use the custom tile. I use your caves custom tile all through the mountain passes. Only 100 max entries are allowed in the file though.

**leo.civil.uefs** · April 17, 2018, 11:36 PM

Originally Posted by alreadyded

Sounds great.

Mirkwood custom tile with trees and spider web decor is an idea, and the two settlements in Eastern Mirkwood could have some simple custom settlements. Though they may just be caves and so not worth doing.

Also, if you aren't already, you can use the custom tiles in groups of instead of just one. So all the tiles between and/or around use the custom tile. I use your caves custom tile all through the mountain passes. Only 100 max entries are allowed in the file though.

Thanks for the info.

I'm actually finishing another custom tile, an epic one.

and lore accurate 100%. Guesses?

**leo.civil.uefs** · April 18, 2018, 04:49 AM

Cool custom tile, rivercrossing like, a ford, like Argonath. Works pretty well.

**Ngugi** · April 18, 2018, 05:05 AM

Mighty scene that
Is there a crossing over the river?

**♔atthias♔** · April 18, 2018, 05:08 AM

mighty scene that indeed leo well done +rep

**leo.civil.uefs** · April 18, 2018, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by Ngugi

Mighty scene that
Is there a crossing over the river?

Of course! It has perfect intgration with stratmap, there is a ford. I've made it to work exactly like Argonath.

And now I added a small script that will eventually spawn rebel units there, also in argonat, moria halls and erebor gates. So battles will happen in these places.

By the way this is the Falls of Rauros and its custom tile is located exacly where it should be in stratmap.