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    Default Gondor with MOS, JUST IMPOSIBLE.

    Ok i really try but gondor in VH/VH whit MOS its a nightmare, the amount of enemy stacks make the entire campaign has no sense, Harad a fu.... desert send like two or three stack every turn, and mordor dont stop sending armies.

    Maybe its one script of the sub mod (MOS) or its the mod i dont know, there are no sense for wining a battle cause in the next turn they have another army

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    Default Re: Gondor whit MOS, JUST IMPOSIBLE

    Aye, Gondor suffers from rather obscene numbers of stack spam...
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    But that is no fun at all, decisive battle doesnt exist and its stupid fight every turn i just leave my campaign after seing this






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    Default Re: Gondor whit MOS, JUST IMPOSIBLE

    yeah, Gondor campaigns in general are a total nightmare...or, if you aren't one for lots of large armies, TATW in general can be nightmarish, but Gondor in particular is just plain cruel (my first run as Gondor I didn't even know you could walk over those islands to Harad...guess my surprise when 6 full stacks suddenly pour in?)

    I personally suggest one of the several submods to help deal with stack-spam and help make it more playable; there are several that should do the trick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timur Amir View Post
    I personally suggest one of the several submods to help deal with stack-spam and help make it more playable; there are several that should do the trick.
    Well it's been a while since I played Baron Samedi's Compilation and I've never tried FRoME, so I don't know how hard it is for Gondor there; but FREDREX is talking about MOS and I completely agree with him on this point. Gondor has the potential of being the most fun campaign, I love their position and roster, but the stack spam is just ridiculous and completely kills the fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timur Amir View Post
    I personally suggest one of the several submods to help deal with stack-spam and help make it more playable; there are several that should do the trick.
    I am developing a feature that will limit A.I. stack spam. I haven't seen any other good solution so far here. Limiting recruitment conditions for instance won't help in the long run, since you as a human player are also affected by this limitation. The real ''problem'' is A.I. aid through the campaign script.
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    Default Re: Gondor whit MOS, JUST IMPOSIBLE

    I think someone did a mod for MOS so the stack spam was reduced from 6 stacks per turn to 2 1/2 per turn
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    Default Re: Gondor whit MOS, JUST IMPOSIBLE

    Quote Originally Posted by Mhaedros View Post
    I think someone did a mod for MOS so the stack spam was reduced from 6 stacks per turn to 2 1/2 per turn
    6 stacks per turn???

    Man that has to lead to a lot of :sparta:-ish situations.
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    Default Re: Gondor whit MOS, JUST IMPOSIBLE

    Here: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=F6AR97UW
    This small addon on MOS was made by Trailhog250. It reduces the stack-spam from 5-6 stacks to 1-2 stacks, Gondor should be easier now. Pls note that you have to restart your campaign.

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    Default Re: Gondor whit MOS, JUST IMPOSIBLE

    For which version of MOS is that?
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    Default Re: Gondor whit MOS, JUST IMPOSIBLE

    That was the one I talked about
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    Default Re: Gondor whit MOS, JUST IMPOSIBLE

    It's for 6.3, the latest version.

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    Default Re: Gondor whit MOS, JUST IMPOSIBLE

    Damn, I'm still using 6.2 (don't want to let go of Taro_M's units).
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    Default Re: Gondor whit MOS, JUST IMPOSIBLE

    Quote Originally Posted by kraxmause View Post
    Damn, I'm still using 6.2 (don't want to let go of Taro_M's units).
    Just a few of his units are out of the 6.3 version, you barely miss them as many other of Taro's things for gondor are still in it, and the new version is better and more balanced in general. I would advise to go for 6.3.

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    Default Re: Gondor with MOS, JUST IMPOSIBLE.

    Really? I understood that they were completely removed...which units are gone?
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    Default Re: Gondor with MOS, JUST IMPOSIBLE.

    I don't see the problem, you could easily win that
    You should first build up a few good armies and then invade Harad, before that it's just holding off. This way you get those problems (you can also rush in immediately and try to take big parts of Harondor or Umbar, this would limit them although you're ed when the big stacks come in.

    You should try the expanded map, it adds some more settlements and could make it easier (also use Durven, he's awsum)

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    Default Re: Gondor with MOS, JUST IMPOSIBLE.

    I think with expanded map it gets even worse. I´ve played MOS with the tweaks that Trailhog250 has made to reduce stackspam (with expanded map). But nevertheless i had to face 7 mordor fullstacks at about turn 30.

    I´ve managed to sign a truce with Mordor. What the hell yes. And then raided the coast of Harad to get a moneyboost and reduce their stackspam. As soon as Mordor marched with most of their stacks towards the silvans i´ve attacked them again. But it felt wrong to play it that way so i stopped playing.

    I still have no clue which strategy i should use for Gondor in MOS. So i understand what FREDREX means.
    Maybe cavalryspam?

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    Default Re: Gondor with MOS, JUST IMPOSIBLE.

    All Taro's units are gone but there are new Dol Amroth units from RCRR

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    Quote Originally Posted by killersmurf View Post
    All Taro's units are gone but there are new Dol Amroth units from RCRR
    yeah but they kind of suck....
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    Default Re: Gondor with MOS, JUST IMPOSIBLE.

    As Saruman said; "Against the power of Mordor there can be no victory."

    But yeah, the stack spam can ge out of hand, but is not unbeatable.

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