Greek Strategy?

[Herpus Derpus]

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I've been playing as The Greek Cities and the Spartans and Armoured Hoplites are very good (Though can still be beaten by pike phalanxes)the Cretan Archers and Rhodian Slingers are pretty good missile troops, yet I can't preform Hammer and Anvil strikes with the Greek Cavalry and Militia(Skirmisher) Cavalry(Yes I know Militia cav isn't meant for melee) and the generals don't have much in numbers.

Can I have some tips on defending my flanks decently with Greek Cav/Militia Cav?

Tl;dr:How do I use Greek Cav effectively?

[Benneffect]

Mod.

[Herpus Derpus]

Mod.

Generally I can't mod Rome because I largely use it for multiplayer, and nobody plays multiplayer with any mods that add/change stats of units.

[|Sith| Max]

Tl;dr:How do I use Greek Cav effectively?

A normal Greek army in CWB these days is deployed as a counter to armies that focus too much on skirmishing (cav and archers). The style can be named Attrition tactics and revolves around letting enemy missile troops waste all their arrows or killing them off with concentrated fire on single units before those can use their ammo.. A normal army in this build will entail something like
6 G def armored hops
3 G def hops
1 militia hoplites cannon fodder
8 ranged units, usually Cretans and Rhodians. generally a 4/4 spread between the two.
2 to 3 GG greek cavalry.

Greek Cavalry is Light Cavalry. Meaning they are used as harassment or to overwhelm weakened, isolated units. They chase off archers, force HA out of Cantabrian Circle, kill off routing units before they rally, et cetera. Requires a bit of basic micro but is quite rewarding.

Mod.

Ever tried connecting to a vanilla game on Multiplayer with a modded version of rome? No? Well, I'll let you know now, It does not work.

[Sword_01]

6 G def armored hops
3 G def hops
1 militia hoplites cannon fodder
8 ranged units, usually Cretans and Rhodians. generally a 4/4 spread between the two.
2 to 3 GG greek cavalry.

Greek Cavalry is Light Cavalry. Meaning they are used as harassment or to overwhelm weakened, isolated units. They chase off archers, force HA out of Cantabrian Circle, kill off routing units before they rally, et cetera. Requires a bit of basic micro but is quite rewarding.
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personally i would use

6g/g arm hops
4/5 g/g normal archers
4/3 g/- cretan archers
4 g/g militia cav
3g/g greek cav

I think that covers the 15k.

[vimy]

i rarly if ever play greeks, but basic tatcs should work regrdles.
this is a rock paper scissors game at its root and this mechanic should not be forgotten.

try to maintain a front line with 2/3 or whatever of your line infantry but keep between 2 to 4 units back, 1/2 on each flank.

regardless of nationality, cavalry sucks at holding a line, better for smashing through than standing still.
if you keep a reserve of infantry, it means your front will be weaker, but it also gives you flexibility and a strong enough counter to stop flanking maneuvers.

it also free up your cavalry for what there better at, beating enemy horse, hunting enemy skirmishers and hitting there line from the rear.

If I was to play as Greeks, i would get a mostly hoplitesque army, with 3 units of skirmishers, 2 cav and 1 general. I might even consider reducing the skirmishers based on who i would fight for more infantry. Greeks are best fighting it out on the line and using the cavalry to hunt down routers.

The extra infantry means you can outstretch the enemy while keeping a reserve and all those pointy sticks means shish kabob for enemy cavalry.

any other formation, I find, plays to the weakness of the greeks, rather than to there strengths.

[DarthLazy]

Nobody plays mods?

www.ebonline.tk

[RTW Fan]

Greek cav is light cav. You cannot really use it for hammer and anvil. Use it to chase off archers and skirmishers.

[|Sith| Max]

Personally i would not use it since it has no Rhodians, meaning you cant shoot chariot archers with it. It also is not an attrition army but a balanced army, since you are not overdosing on hoplites. Since it a balanced army and not an attrition army, why are you comparing it with mine?

[Van Daan]

Like my compatriots have stated, Greece is not a faction good for going toe to toe with other factions, especially rome, as the only advantage you have is slightly better long range archers. However, due to their heavily armoured spearmen available for a relatively low cost, as well as having Cretans, Rhodians, and regular archers in the same package, allows you to duke it out with your opponent missile wise if they took a skirmishing faction, and the ideal scenario is six g/g armoured hoplites with most of their men left in a blob with your opponent being reduced to chariots and archers with no ammunition.

[|Sith| Max]

Textbook takedown.

[Van Daan]

Thanks

[TheFoolOnTheHill]

cav in bac hoplights in front archers in the middle

[KittySN]

Type "this is Sparta" and kick your opponent down a bottomless pit--and then beat their AI.

[Herpus Derpus]

Type "this is Sparta" and kick your opponent down a bottomless pit--and then beat their AI.

Basicly hide a few fodder units in a forest and claim they're Spartans?

Thats just crazy enough to work!

[RTW Fan]

I have taken to using a couple of unupgraded Spartan in the flanks to defend the skirmishers. They can only targeted by mobile missiles, and not that effectively with some Greek cav, their morale can be crucial in the end game, and they are ridiculously anti cav units even without upgrades. The key is to keep them out of enemy missile range until the decisive encounter with enemy cav. I don't know, there are many loopholes to exploit, but it seems to be working for me in mp, even against the best factions.