Need BMDB help

**Nihirizumu no tsumetai ame** · November 03, 2011, 03:24 AM

Hello, i need assistance with my BMDB as some units that i added to my install are invisible in game. The odd thing is that NONE of my M2TW mod tools work properly as of recent, hence i cannot check if it is correct. The unit i am having trouble with is the deli unit i added from Wars of Renaissance. As i can see their mount ingame, but not the Deli rider. Also, i am using that deli unit as a replacement for the existing deli unit, hence i am using the same edu text as the old deli. Either way, i tried to use the new deli's edu, and still have the same invisible problem, note, this is not the only unit to have this problem i will type the edu, and attach the bmdb.

type Delis
dictionary Delis ; Balkan Lancers
category cavalry
class light
voice_type Light
banner faction eastern_main_cavalry
banner holy crusade_cavalry
soldier delis, 32, 0, 1
officer serbia_hussars_officer
mount pony
mount_effect elephant -4, camel -4
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, can_withdraw, mercenary_unit, free_upkeep_unit
formation 2, 4.4, 3, 6, 2, square
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 7, 8, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, spear, 60, 1
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 8, 5, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, sword, 30, 1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 0, 4, 3, flesh
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 1
stat_ground 0, 0, -3, -1
stat_mental 8, low, untrained
stat_charge_dist 20
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 2, 540, 250, 90, 70, 685, 4, 100
armour_ug_levels 0
armour_ug_models deli
ownership all,
era 0 turks, hungary
era 1 turks, hungary
era 2 turks, hungary

**AJStoner** · November 03, 2011, 11:01 AM

Did you remember to import the models as well as the textures? Also, if they have unique animations you will need those as well.

**Nihirizumu no tsumetai ame** · November 04, 2011, 01:12 AM

i have added the models and textures, the thing is that i changed the directory of one of the textures, but the BMDB was modified to accommodate the change. However, it might be the animations

**AJStoner** · November 04, 2011, 01:58 AM

The BMDB is not crashing the game correct, it's just a matter of the units not showing properly?

**Nihirizumu no tsumetai ame** · November 04, 2011, 05:37 PM

i see, i did a little BMDB editing, and the unit is now visible, however, the textures do not load

**AJStoner** · November 04, 2011, 10:25 PM

Make sure the "soldier" line corresponds to the correct BMDB entry, this screwed me up many times. For example, if you clone a unit entry and leave the old soldier reference while adding a new BMDB entry it will still look at the old one.

**Nihirizumu no tsumetai ame** · November 05, 2011, 02:44 AM

thank you. if you mean change the soldier line in the edu, i have done that, yet the unit has no texture on them, hence has that silvery look to it

**AJStoner** · November 05, 2011, 04:07 AM

Are they completely silver or do they have faint detail? If it's the latter then you are using a texture that doesn't quite fit the model.

**Nihirizumu no tsumetai ame** · November 07, 2011, 10:27 PM

completely silver.

**Emperor of Hell** · November 08, 2011, 12:53 AM

Then you should add the textures for the faction you want them to have

**Nihirizumu no tsumetai ame** · November 09, 2011, 01:08 AM

the unit is for the turks hence i have it as this:

4 deli
1 1
39 unit_models/_Units/turks/deli_lod0.mesh 6400
1
5 turks
56 unit_models/_Units/turks/textures/delils_diffuse.texture
57 unit_models/_Units/turks/textures/tufekchi_normal.texture
50 unit_sprites/turks_Janissary_Musketeers_sprite.spr
1
5 turks
55 unit_models/_Units/turks/textures/delils_attach.texture
58 unit_models/_Units/strelec/textures/cos_inf_normal.texture 0
1
5 Horse
13 MTW2_HR_Spear
13 MTW2_HR_Sword 2
21 MTW2_HR_spear_Primary
14 fs_test_shield 2
18 MTW2_Sword_Primary
14 fs_test_shield
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002

**ilmrik** · November 09, 2011, 06:30 PM

delete the "mercenary_unit" atribute from the atribute line in the EDU,
all units with that attribute always use the "merc" skin instead of the "faction specific" one in the ModelDB.

**Emperor of Hell** · November 10, 2011, 12:33 AM

Originally Posted by ilmrik

delete the "mercenary_unit" atribute from the atribute line in the EDU,
all units with that attribute always use the "merc" skin instead of the "faction specific" one in the ModelDB.

Never knew that, useful info

**AJStoner** · November 10, 2011, 03:36 AM

If you want the unit to be available as a Merc there are two options:

1) Always have the unit use 1 texture (entered as "merc") This can be useful if the unit type in question is from a certain region. For example I have some Welsh units that can be recruited as mercs but always use their Welsh textures.

2) Make a second Mercenary version of the unit in EDU. If you do this they can refer to the same BMDB soldier entry where a mercenary texture can be included an not affect the regular unit's textures.