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    The ideas to be proposed here are interesting ones to make work for this mod, a later expansion for this mod or the ext EB3 who knows, is tuff to do things in lately in these game and the Eb team have done a tremendous work and the previews are a prove of that

    anyway here are my ideas, I was watching history shows and I am of those playing Eb1 for historical propuses of enjoing the game quiet close to that once past

    I read that the senate and the consulship will work well since MTW Kingdoms and the original vanilla one has the papal feature and is only a matter of woring the script but what about certain events that changed the politics of a faction

    the most complex ones, Egypt, Selucia and the new kingdoms of asia minor, the coming barbarian factions with attila the hun (if the time of the game streaches to that century), Cartago, Greece and the most politacally complex one the Romani ( my favorite ones)

    example The romans face a crucial change of political turmoil after the creation of the first triumvate and the coming of Julios Ceasar (again not worry with him since there is a script that can create with no codes a hero in kingdoms just like for example William wallace in Scotland under certain things). the thing I recommend to do is the change from a consul controling faction to an absolute leader faction like the historical one when Ceasar became dictator and Octavian an emperor, leaving the sentate has a second in command since I think the seneta and consulship was kept for sentate power prupose.

    during that turmoil you can create the character with a script and make the player choose at that point which faction of the division of Rome, the player wants, the ceasar one or pompey.... later octavian or marcus antonius thus making this faction challenging and interesting even more

    the other factions require the feature of the hero creation script and the specific time of creation, Egypt is maybe complicated since Cleopatra became the head of state and she was a lover of ceasar and later marcus antonius maybe a marry option but is complicated since the game reads the generals has males only

    anyway this are some ideas and is not complicated is just tedious to do but I know you will do it I read the work you have been doing and I ask to take your time because you have too a life to enjoy, this mod is active and the previews are enough to tells us you are working and this mod when is ready in the choosen time from your team will be awesome, thank you EB team and the critics of the possibilities for this from the entire community of fans of th EB series are welcome to be written here or even more ideas

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    Goes in against the whole idea of EB, so I'm guessing a big NO.

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    Actually, if I'm not mistaken, there already is a couple of mods that put you in the place of the Roman civil war. I cannot remember their names though.

    Scripting of this sort doesn't seem very Barbarory though.
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    Default Re: ideas to have in this new EB2

    Quote Originally Posted by totalus View Post
    The ideas to be proposed here are interesting ones to make work for this mod, a later expansion for this mod or the ext EB3 who knows, is tuff to do things in lately in these game and the Eb team have done a tremendous work and the previews are a prove of that

    anyway here are my ideas, I was watching history shows and I am of those playing Eb1 for historical propuses of enjoing the game quiet close to that once past

    I read that the senate and the consulship will work well since MTW Kingdoms and the original vanilla one has the papal feature and is only a matter of woring the script but what about certain events that changed the politics of a faction

    the most complex ones, Egypt, Selucia and the new kingdoms of asia minor, the coming barbarian factions with attila the hun (if the time of the game streaches to that century), Cartago, Greece and the most politacally complex one the Romani ( my favorite ones)

    example The romans face a crucial change of political turmoil after the creation of the first triumvate and the coming of Julios Ceasar (again not worry with him since there is a script that can create with no codes a hero in kingdoms just like for example William wallace in Scotland under certain things). the thing I recommend to do is the change from a consul controling faction to an absolute leader faction like the historical one when Ceasar became dictator and Octavian an emperor, leaving the sentate has a second in command since I think the seneta and consulship was kept for sentate power prupose.

    during that turmoil you can create the character with a script and make the player choose at that point which faction of the division of Rome, the player wants, the ceasar one or pompey.... later octavian or marcus antonius thus making this faction challenging and interesting even more

    the other factions require the feature of the hero creation script and the specific time of creation, Egypt is maybe complicated since Cleopatra became the head of state and she was a lover of ceasar and later marcus antonius maybe a marry option but is complicated since the game reads the generals has males only

    anyway this are some ideas and is not complicated is just tedious to do but I know you will do it I read the work you have been doing and I ask to take your time because you have too a life to enjoy, this mod is active and the previews are enough to tells us you are working and this mod when is ready in the choosen time from your team will be awesome, thank you EB team and the critics of the possibilities for this from the entire community of fans of th EB series are welcome to be written here or even more ideas
    You need to stop watching "history shows" and start reading history books.
    Anyway, this is not a Rome-Mod. The whole point of the mod is to illustrate that Rome and Greece were not the only things interesting in the world at that time. That is a perception of 19th century historiography.
    Apart from that the time-frame is just all over the place.

    And please, please stop calling the Ptolemaic Empire Egypt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antonius View Post
    You need to stop watching "history shows" and start reading history books.
    Anyway, this is not a Rome-Mod. The whole point of the mod is to illustrate that Rome and Greece were not the only things interesting in the world at that time. That is a perception of 19th century historiography.
    Apart from that the time-frame is just all over the place.

    And please, please stop calling the Ptolemaic Empire Egypt.
    theres nothing wrong with his history.
    Unforunatley you cant use heroes if your going for complete history. Say when your playing for example rome gets sacked, theres no garuntee julius father/grandfather or so on wasnt killed. So if you want to add them and keep it "historic" you would need to do it under very specific circumstaces that would be almost impossible to achive

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    Default Re: ideas to have in this new EB2

    Quote Originally Posted by Antonius View Post
    You need to stop watching "history shows" and start reading history books.
    Anyway, this is not a Rome-Mod. The whole point of the mod is to illustrate that Rome and Greece were not the only things interesting in the world at that time. That is a perception of 19th century historiography.
    Apart from that the time-frame is just all over the place.

    And please, please stop calling the Ptolemaic Empire Egypt.
    It is totally acceptable to call the Ptolemaic Empire, Egypt. After all the Ptolemaic Dynasty was the last dynasty of ancient Egypt and although they ruled in many places besides Egypt, their primary base of power was in Egypt. Not everyone is a Historian nor should everone have to ALWAYS use the exact terminlogy.
    Last edited by joker8765; September 12, 2012 at 01:03 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joker8765 View Post
    It is totally acceptable to call the Ptolemaic Empire, Egypt. After all the Ptolemaic Dynasty was the last dynasty of ancient Egypt and although they ruled in many places besides Egypt, their primary base of power was in Egypt. Not everyone is a Historian nor should everone have to ALWAYS use the exact terminlogy.
    Moreover, is quite historical to call the Ptolemaic Empire, Egypt; as Ptolemy and his succesors were Kings of Egypt, you can call it Ptolemaic Egypt, ptolemaic empire, the lagid Empire, or the Lagid egypt, as you see fit; and all of them Historical.

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    Thank you for your ideas but we cannot use the papal system as it requires a papal faction to work and we want to use all the faction slots for playable factions.

    The heroes idea is also not something we would want to do either, as we don't want to have scripted characters in the game.


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    thanks for the answers, I realize it sounded to big to be good and forgot the fact of the amount of impossible work it will take to accomplish something like this

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    Quote Originally Posted by totalus View Post
    thanks for the answers, I realize it sounded to big to be good and forgot the fact of the amount of impossible work it will take to accomplish something like this
    if you want to play the late roman republic there is a sub mod for original EB Novus Ordo Mundi. However it is not yet finished. has most of the ideas in it you mentioned

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    Default Re: ideas to have in this new EB2

    egypt is based on a greek name anyways.
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