Siege weapons

**Ceki** · April 21, 2006, 09:21 AM

Is there any mod which increase number of siege weapons in unit. I mean default is 2 onagers, scorpions, etc per unit. It would be great if there is any mod where u can have 4 onagers or scorpions per unit...
If there is any, please let me know...Thanx in advance...

**Flavius** · April 21, 2006, 09:26 AM

Um...I think that all you have to do is go to options and change the unit size to huge or something. However, that also increases the size of normal units, such as infantry and the like.

**Ceki** · April 21, 2006, 09:29 AM

Nope, that will increase number of men, not siege weapons... It's allways 2... no metter what size of unit u choose in options menu....

**The Alcotroll** · April 21, 2006, 09:36 AM

Ooh! Ooh! I know that one!

Look in the Descr_Unit file where all the statistcal nonsense hangs out, and take a moment to read through the shpiel at the top which expalains what it all means (for future reference like).

This bit:

soldier Name of the soldier model to use (from descr_models_battle.txt)
; followed by the number of ordinary soldiers in the unit
; followed by the number of extras (pigs dogs, elephants, chariots artillery pieces etc attached to the unit)
; followed by the collision mass of the men. 1.0 is normal. Only applies to infantry

is relevant to you.

Find whichever unit you want to edit (Roman Onager in this example) and simply change the '2' to a '4';

type roman onager
dictionary roman_onager ; Onagers
category siege
class missile
voice_type Light_1
soldier roman_crew, 16, 2, 0.8
engine onager
attributes sea_faring, hardy
formation 1.5, 1.5, 3, 3, 3, square
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 4, 2, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, knife, 25 ,1
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 53, 2, boulder, 300, 30, siege_missile, blade, blunt, none, 25 ,1
stat_sec_attr ap, bp, area, launching
stat_pri_armour 7, 3, 0, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 2
stat_ground 0, 0, 0, 0
stat_mental 6, normal, highly_trained
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 830, 120, 90, 130, 830
ownership romans julii,romans brutii,romans scipii,romans senate

You may want to increase the number of crewmen and ammunition as well.

**Ceki** · April 21, 2006, 09:40 AM

Oh, man... I tried and I get lost in that... I messed up really bad... Can u make this file and upload it, please...

**The Alcotroll** · April 21, 2006, 09:56 AM

You know where your descr_unit file is?

Open it, and press ctrl-f to bring up the search function. Type in 'roman onager' (minus apostraphes) and it'll locate the entry in the file. The entry will look like this:

type roman onager
dictionary roman_onager ; Onagers
category siege
class missile
voice_type Light_1
soldier roman_crew, 16, 2, 0.8
engine onager
attributes sea_faring, hardy
formation 1.5, 1.5, 3, 3, 3, square
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 4, 2, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, knife, 25 ,1
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 53, 2, boulder, 300, 30, siege_missile, blade, blunt, none, 25 ,1
stat_sec_attr ap, bp, area, launching
stat_pri_armour 7, 3, 0, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 2
stat_ground 0, 0, 0, 0
stat_mental 6, normal, highly_trained
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 830, 120, 90, 130, 830
ownership romans julii,romans brutii,romans scipii,romans senate

If it doesn't look like that then you're in the wrong file.

All you have to do is count six lines down, to the line that says:

soldier roman_crew, 16, 2, 0.8

Now change the 2 to a 4.

Edit: If you're having CTD issues after that, then likely you've made a mistake somewhere in the code. A miss-placed space will kill the game, (I've lost count of the number of times I've had CTDs at start-up because I pressed shift-f instead of ctrl-f when I wanted to find something), so you have to be very careful. If you can't find where you went wrong, replace your compromised file with an original (always keep a back-up).

Follow the instructions above to the letter, and you can't go wrong.

**Ceki** · April 21, 2006, 10:50 AM

If I do that, will it change only to roman faction or all factions?

**The Alcotroll** · April 21, 2006, 11:01 AM

The above faction will only affect Onagers for the roman factions. But the process is the same for all the others, you'll just have to change the entry for each one. The Greeks, Carthaginians, Egypians, Dacians, everytone who can deploy Onagers in fact, all have their own entry in Descr_Unit.

**Proximus** · April 21, 2006, 12:56 PM

As this is not about an actual release I've moved it.

**Ceki** · April 22, 2006, 05:15 AM

Sorry Proximus, my mistake...
About that editing... I tried and it doesn't work. I even started a custom battle, stil,l there are 2 onagers per unit

Please can someone create a mod wich increase nuber of siege weapons...
2 siege weapons per unit doesn't make some inpact in a battle... But 4 would have...Imagine 4 onager or scorpion units with 16 weapons...That would have impact on a battle...
Maybe I ask too much...someone please make this mod. I can't, tried, and it doesen't work