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    Labour has defended Cherie Blair over a £7,700 bill for a personal hair stylist during the last election campaign.
    Read it and weep.

    When I read this, I laughed for about five minutes. Then I was siezed by the insatiable urge to share the story with as many people as possible.

    It raises a serious point though, one I haven't seen before on here (as far as I recall at least), and that's issues of funding for political parties.

    Unless you've been living under a rock for the last month then you'll probably be sick to death of the sleaze accusations bouncing back and forth between the three main parties, all of whom seem to have recieved substantial 'loans' in the past from various businessmen, many of whom were subsequently (and entirely coincidentally...) nominated for honours.

    The dilemma is that political parties have to recieve funding from somewhere, and while Teflon Tony shelling out seven grand on his wife's hair (should have done something about her face too...) is something of an alarmist example, without that money, parties could never put their election message across to the public, and we may as well decide the result of the Election by rolling a dice.

    That money has to come from somewhere, and donations are as good a source as any (note that most of the ones in the news recently were 'loans', but where is a political party going to find the money to pay those loans back?).
    But this raises questions of fairness. After all, a party that gets several million pounds worth of donations has better election chances than one with only a few thousand, and that's hardly democratic. What about the influence of business on the democratic process? If Party A announces the noble aim of imposing significant tarriffs on businesses that cause pollution, business leaders who'd rather not pay those tarriffs can make donations to Party B, who intends no such thing. That influx of cash enables the B's to mount a more effective campaign than their rivals, with a more persuasive message (dreamt up by some expensive psychologist), that reaches more of the electorate (more bill-boards, more canvassers travelling further, slots on the TV etc). It rather makes a mockery of the democratic vote (lot's of Tony's generous friends have done rather well out of things like privatised hospitals and City Academies by the way...)

    One alternative is for the tax-payer to provide funding, doled out equally to all parties. It certainly makes things fairer, and goes some way to subduing the tarnishing influence of the tentacles of big business, but opens up a new question of who gets the funding. While you can't very well choose who gets funded and who doesn't, neither do you want your taxes going to fund the rantings of the BNP, Sinn-Fein or the British Society for Islamic Extremism (I made that one up, but I'm sure there are plenty of lunatic-fringe relegious parties out there, of all creeds and faiths).

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    She spent 7 grand on her hair and she still could give Hannibal Lecter the willies.

    I seem to remember the Tories got kick out of office for Sleaze stories like this, I wonder how much more the country will take before it grows tired of Labor and kicks them out of office.

    And remember, Hull’s finest John Prescott doesn’t pay council tax because he moves around from country mansion to country mansion (all the properties are owned by the tax payer BTW) throughout the year to avoid paying tax.


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    Yet more sleaze from our 'whiter than white' government. The country is sick of labour. Only 36%(?) voted labour in the last election, and yet they have a majority in the House of Commons. where is the democracy in that?

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    If the Tories got just another 2 or 3% of the votes then they would have gained about 100 seats at the last election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freddie
    If the Tories got just another 2 or 3% of the votes then they would have gained about 100 seats at the last election.
    Only if they got them in the right constituencies.

    jp, its not an English Parliament but a British one though.

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    Why she needed a haircut? She could always cover up...

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    The democracy is in that a) because we don't have proportional representation and b) because no other party got a higher or equal share of the vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squeakus Maximus
    The democracy is in that a) because we don't have proportional representation and b) because no other party got a higher or equal share of the vote.
    I know that, and you do know what I mean. In England the Conservatives recieved more votes than Labour, yet Labour got more seats. Maybe Proportional representation would be a good idea.....

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    I think (note, I am not 100% sure) that you can't wear those while off-duty...

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    The political situation at the moment in Britain is in a veritable conundrum. Whereas the donations system allows wealthier people to exercise more influence than should be allowed to them (even more so considering that may of the said donators receive seats in the Lords), a system where the tax payer funded the different parties would be equally disagreeable. I doubt a Tory voter would be happy that his money goes off to fund the Labour Party and others which he does not support, and the same can be said for other voters. Furthermore, if all parties get an equal amount of money, does that mean that the Monster Raving Looney Party will receive the same sum as the Liberal Democrats?
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    You all seem to have forgotten that the the Tories were every bit as corrupt.

    Personally I vote Lib Dem - at least they would be corrupt in a nice way. And since there's no possibility of them actually getting into power, I don't have to feel guilty after they do and behave like jerks...I can always feel self-righteous about my contribution to democracy.
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    The Lib Dems aren't that corrupt, technically, unless we count licentuousness and sexual profligacy...

    I think it might be best if a system was sought whereby cash was given out on the basis of support in the nation; not seats in Parliament but the share of the vote obtained throughout Great Britain.

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    I do not agree; such a system would only help entrench the governing party yet further in their place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King Henry V
    I do not agree; such a system would only help entrench the governing party yet further in their place.
    Not really, as they have only a little more than other parties despite the absolute majority they hold. In the UK anyway.

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    I'd be happy if someone lobbied Condoleeza Rice just $70 for a trip to the saloon.
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    Was reading the other day that with media considerations and expensive consultants election budgets are just kicking the arse of £20 million for Labour and the Conservatives. Thats a lot of money for a lot of hairdressers.

    Peter

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    Heh, yeah, but at least it keeps it in circulation...

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    What you mean paying for all those hairdressers Coupé's?

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