IB2 FD Map

[Stath's]

Excellent choice!!

[the man, the myth, the legend]

Pretty awesome map fellas, can't wait to see it in all its glory.

[webMaster412160]

Looks sweet!

[Antonius]

I can not wait for this!!!!! Please keep up the great work!!!

[han891]

We also ported over the mundus magnus map. Here are some screen shots:

[Riothamus]

We also ported over the mundus magnus map. Here are some screen shots:

Han891 ported over the Magnus map and we are currently at work on it. Please rep Han891 our new IB2 developer

[Stath's]

Nice work!! One question: It seems to me that there are too many regions in Sahara and the Steppe regions of Russia. Shouldn't their number be decreased a bit?

[Reno Melitensis]

Nice work!! One question: It seems to me that there are too many regions in Sahara and the Steppe regions of Russia. Shouldn't their number be decreased a bit?

The map is still under work, we will first add the Roman Provinces in 400 AD than add other important Regions, but as you correctly pointed out there are two many regions in Africa and the Russian Steppes.

Wow, the Mundus Magnus map is cool. Big enough that you could include Axum and Himyar, all of the Hunnic groups, and it makes Spain a more complex region. Although, it would need a bit of work IMO, Mauretania and Scythia Minor are both kinda funny.

BTW, why are the Visigoths in Aremorica and the Burgundians in Sapaudia? The Burgundians should be in Borbetomagus in 438.

Yes Magister the factions have to be moved to their correct starting provinces, the map is still work in progress.

Cheers

[Magister Militum Flavius Aetius]

Wow, the Mundus Magnus map is cool. Big enough that you could include Axum and Himyar, all of the Hunnic groups, and it makes Spain a more complex region. Although, it would need a bit of work IMO, Mauretania and Scythia Minor are both kinda funny.

BTW, why are the Visigoths in Aremorica and the Burgundians in Sapaudia? The Burgundians should be in Borbetomagus in 438.

[Riothamus]

We are on our way boys.Things will happen fast. Units and factions will be ported over from our other mods and we shall have an update very soon on factions and further developments.

[Magister Militum Flavius Aetius]

If you need someone to do historical advising for this mod I have all the titles, commanders, praetorian prefects, consuls, etc. for this time period.

For example, in 438 an unknown commander (Although probably Censorius, Comes Hispenias, who would negotiate a treaty with the Suebes this year) defeated the Suebes somewhere in Spain.

Sigisvultus was appointed Comes et Magister Utriusque Militiae in Praesentis Iunior this year.

Aetius, although initially in Gaul where he and Litorius defeated Theodoric in a surprise attack at Mons Colubrarius, would go to Rome and preside over the adoption of the Theodosian code (we know this from the Senate minutes). Aetius' titles were Comes et Magister Utriusque Militiae in Praesentis Senior and Magnificus vir Parens Patriciusque Noster. It should be noted that that was a greater title than simply Patricius, which was held by several people.

"'Aeti aveas!' Dictum XV. 'Ter consulem te!' Dictum XIII. 'Excubiis tuis salvi et securi sumus!' Dictum XII. 'Excubiis tuis, laboribus tuis!' Dictum XV." - Gesta Senatus Urbis Romae, 6.

("Hail Aetius!" Repeated 15 times. "A third Consulship for you!" Repeated 13 times. "Through your vigilance we are safe and secure!" Repeated 12 times. "Through your vigilance, through your labors!" Repeated 15 times.)

Litorius was probably Comes et Magister Militum per Gallias.

Aegidius might have been entering Roman service around this time, Majorian wouldn't enter Roman service until 443, and Ricimer wouldn't come around until he was appointed in the Treaty of 443 with the Burgundians. Ricimer was probably Comes Foederatorum in 443, like Sigisvult was from 426 to 437.

Vertericus, another Goth like Sigisvult, was probably Comes Foederatorum in 438 and when he appears in 439 just after Litorius' defeat. (He stabilized the situation, and Aetius returned to Gaul and defeated the Visigoths and Avitus negotiated an end to the war, in Roman favor.)

Cassiodorus (Grandafther of the Author of the Gothic History) was an ambassador to Attila's court with the secretary Constantius and Aetius' son Carpilio who would serve as a hostage (this occurred sometime between the death of Rua in 439 and Merobaudes' Pangeyric in 446).

Eparchius Avitus was Praefectus Praetorio per Gallias in 438-439. Anicius Acilius Glabro Faustus was Praefectus Praetorio Italiae Illyrici et Africae in 438.

[Riothamus]

If you need someone to do historical advising for this mod I have all the titles, commanders, praetorian prefects, consuls, etc. for this time period.

For example, in 438 an unknown commander (Although probably Censorius, Comes Hispenias, who would negotiate a treaty with the Suebes this year) defeated the Suebes somewhere in Spain.

Sigisvultus was appointed Comes et Magister Utriusque Militiae in Praesentis Iunior this year.

Aetius, although initially in Gaul where he and Litorius defeated Theodoric in a surprise attack at Mons Colubrarius, would go to Rome and preside over the adoption of the Theodosian code (we know this from the Senate minutes). Aetius' titles were Comes et Magister Utriusque Militiae in Praesentis Senior and Magnificus vir Parens Patriciusque Noster. It should be noted that that was a greater title than simply Patricius, which was held by several people.

"'Aeti aveas!' Dictum XV. 'Ter consulem te!' Dictum XIII. 'Excubiis tuis salvi et securi sumus!' Dictum XII. 'Excubiis tuis, laboribus tuis!' Dictum XV." - Gesta Senatus Urbis Romae, 6.

("Hail Aetius!" Repeated 15 times. "A third Consulship for you!" Repeated 13 times. "Through your vigilance we are safe and secure!" Repeated 12 times. "Through your vigilance, through your labors!" Repeated 15 times.)

Litorius was probably Comes et Magister Militum per Gallias.

Aegidius might have been entering Roman service around this time, Majorian wouldn't enter Roman service until 443, and Ricimer wouldn't come around until he was appointed in the Treaty of 443 with the Burgundians. Ricimer was probably Comes Foederatorum in 443, like Sigisvult was from 426 to 437.

Vertericus, another Goth like Sigisvult, was probably Comes Foederatorum in 438 and when he appears in 439 just after Litorius' defeat. (He stabilized the situation, and Aetius returned to Gaul and defeated the Visigoths and Avitus negotiated an end to the war, in Roman favor.)

Cassiodorus (Grandafther of the Author of the Gothic History) was an ambassador to Attila's court with the secretary Constantius and Aetius' son Carpilio who would serve as a hostage (this occurred sometime between the death of Rua in 439 and Merobaudes' Pangeyric in 446).

Eparchius Avitus was Praefectus Praetorio per Gallias in 438-439. Anicius Acilius Glabro Faustus was Praefectus Praetorio Italiae Illyrici et Africae in 438.

Thank You Aetius for your interest and desire to help as a historical advisor. I will need to confer with other mod leaders Reno, Midnite and Rhalina but just not yet. We are currently adding factions, units and editing slightly the map at the moment. This is our first task at hand. When we get to adding historical characters, titles etc.. We will come back to this.

[Reno Melitensis]

Comes Foederatorum (Count of the peoples under treaty) is not historical for his time period. That was a creation of the late 460's.

Aegidius might have been entering Roman service around this time, Majorian wouldn't enter Roman service until 443, and Ricimer wouldn't come around until he was appointed in the Treaty of 443 with the Burgundians. Ricimer was probably Comes Foederatorum in 443, like Sigisvult was from 426 to 437.

Vertericus, another Goth like Sigisvult, was probably Comes Foederatorum in 438 and when he appears in 439 just after Litorius' defeat. (He stabilized the situation, and Aetius returned to Gaul and defeated the Visigoths and Avitus negotiated an end to the war, in Roman favor.).

Magister, apologies. I don't want to question your expertise on this period, you have been a great help and corresponding with you here on TWC on this fascinating time period have been a pleasure and a great resource of learning, but be consistence with dates please. I always taught that the title of Comes Feoderatum was created earlier than we actually know, but in the first post on the Vandalorum thread you said that it was not.

Cheers

[Magister Militum Flavius Aetius]

Let me know if you need help. I know a lot about unit names and military equipment of the time period.

[Riothamus]

We are adding factions and made several changes to the map. There will be a Gaelic, Pict, and 2 Brianniae factions. The mod starts(436AD) many factions under the Yoke of the Huns thus spawned rebellions will be required in 454AD. Also the Sassanid Empire will show it at its full extent.

[rhalina]

The mod starts(436AD)

Haven't seen that!
What a nice thing for my selfishness about franks: this is arround the decades where the firsts proto-franciscas appeared!

[Magister Militum Flavius Aetius]

Ah, the beginning of the Gothic war of 436? That will make for an interesting campaign. Will the Armoricans be represented as a British faction or a Roman Rebels faction?

What's the faction limit for Medieval II? 20?

[Riothamus]

Ah, the beginning of the Gothic war of 436? That will make for an interesting campaign. Will the Armoricans be represented as a British faction or a Roman Rebels faction?

What's the faction limit for Medieval II? 20?

We are working with 23 but we need to add them and we are. More than 23 can be added. Im not sure of the limit. We have a list of factions and Dumnonia may represent a S Western Britain and Armoricans. Councilium will represent the several other settlements in Britain. and a Celtic faction for the Picts and the Gaels Ireland. I don't know if two factions in Britain will work. We did add two settlements in Northern Britain.. Alt Clut and Din Eidyn. A Dál Riata region and Fortriu. Something that we will be a look see first. The Celt regions(Ireland and the Picts) will be represented by a political stronghold and not settlements that grows into a city.

[Yayattasa]

We are working with 23 but we need to add them and we are. More than 23 can be added. Im not sure of the limit.

31 factions with Rebels.

[Magister Militum Flavius Aetius]

Fascinating. AFAIK Britain was divided to Romans south of the Thames, then into Litaui in Wales, Dumnonii in Cornwall, Eburac, and then of course the Aremoriciani and the Litaui in Britanny and Normandy.

Halsall goes as far as to suggest that the "Groans of the Britons", which was probably representative of a real missive or envoy prompted by the restoration of Roman north Gaul in 445 and probably sent in either 445/446 (Aetius smashed the Franks: he recaptured Arras, Tournai, Cambrai, Trier, and Cologne and reduced them to federate status until he died) or after 448 after the defeat of the Aremoriciani, recieved an actual response, although not necessarily military.

Archaeological evidence supports that south of the Thames (like literally, a straight line directly south from the tip of the Thames and nothing North of it) the concept of being a Roman citizen was still very important and it seems that the Roman government in Londinium was still intact into the late 440's or possibly later. The Litaui were still loyal to Rome as well, fighting at Chalons with the Armoricans.

My estimates of the Notitia Dignitatum put the size of the British Limitanei garrison under the Dux Britanniarum (this is after the Comes Britanniarum had left for Gaul in 408) at 23340 Limitanei across the Saxon Shore and Hadrian's wall (this is without the usual 70% or so operating strength factored in) and 11400 men in the Comes Britanniarum's army.

Of course, by 436 the majority of these units had gone over to the local civitas or simply disbanded.