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    Default Plastic surgeon finds the ideal breast shape

    a top consultant plastic surgeon spends three months studying models appearing on Page 3 of a bestselling British red-top newspaper. Later this month he reveals his findings: the mathematical proportions of the perfect breast.


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...#ixzz1bmfZpZKH


    Is everything subjective or this study proves that there are some ''laws of natures'' about human beauty ?

    Are just all these theories about beautiful proportion bogus ? Didn't the Greeks and Da vinci had something similar ?

    PS: finally a scientific a topic we can all appreciate
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    No he’s wrong.
    I’d say they’re at their best when they’re pointing horizontally outwards, in proportion and round like a ripe and juicy honeydew melon.
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    a top consultant plastic surgeon spends three months studying models appearing on Page 3 of a bestselling British red-top newspaper.
    This plastic surgeon doesn't have a clue about serious methodology. The test should had had a sample of men choosing from pictures. What he did there was to find the "ideal" breast for the guy (or few guys) that get to pick the models for that page. And those breasts just look like the typical exaggerated silicon breasts where the nipple ends up ridding the implant. Typical for these types of magazine but it can be that they are not what men find "ideal".

    Then, this is revealing:

    Of course, the subjectivity of such a statement can’t be ignored – not to mention the somewhat dubious nature of the source material. But astonishingly, when shown computer mock-ups of the female form based on these equations, most women agree that they are indeed the ideal vital statistics.
    Women? Since when are women able to say what is ideal in their bodies. Aren't men the ones with real saying in female beauty? Would you ask men to pick the most handsome actor for a ranking? Would you ask men about who is the guy with the best looking face or body? No you wouldn't.

    These breasts look pubescent to me. And the nostalgia of their lost body may skew women's perspective in this. Doesn't mean men will agree.


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    Did he actually carried out a Focus Group Study of some sort or at least a short interview with many male individuals as to draw a corroboration of the supposedly ''ideal type''?

    Also, wouldn't said process simply point out at the current cultural standards of beauty in regards to bewbs?

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    Default Re: Plastic surgeon finds the ideal breast shape

    "Ideal" is a matter of personal taste.
    Some people find ideal something that others don't.
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    Did he actually carried out a Focus Group Study of some sort or at least a short interview with many male individuals as to draw a corroboration of the supposedly ''ideal type''?
    No, he didn't.

    ‘The fact that Page 3 remains as popular now as ever shows that the woman who selects these topless models – and interestingly it is a woman – is doing something right.

    ‘It made me question what it is that makes readers find these breasts appealing to the eye, and whether there is a common theme between them that might define that.’

    Though it would be easy for cynics to assume otherwise, this was a serious study based on a series of scientific measurements and not on the opinions of Mallucci.

    ‘We used computer measuring tools to examine the dimensions and proportions of each pair of breasts, identifying four features common to all of them,’ he explains.

    The features analysed were the dimensions of the upper and lower pole, medical terms that describe the areas above and below the nipple; plus the angle at which the nipple points and the slope of the upper pole.

    ‘The study revealed that in all cases the nipple ‘‘meridian’’ – the horizontal line drawn at the level of the nipple – lay at a point where, on average, the proportion of the breast above it represented 45 per cent of overall volume of the breast and below it 55 per cent.

    ‘In the majority of cases the upper pole was either straight or concave, and the nipple was pointing skywards at an average angle of 20 degrees. In all cases the breasts demonstrated a tight convex lower pole – a neat but voluminous curve.

    ‘For the second part of the study I analysed images of the breasts of ordinary women pre- and post- implant surgery to establish whether, if a breast deviates from these measurements, it becomes less attractive. And the answer is that it does, regardless of size.’

    For the first time plastic surgeons now have a powerful visual imagery of the proportions that make a breast attractive. ‘Now we can show women images to highlight shape and form that will actually give them what they want,’ says Mallucci.
    This guy analyzed a set of images of models picked by a woman, concludes that this is valid because the section as remained popular (really, a page of half naked stunning women with natural breasts remained popular, who would have guessed?). Obviously he doesn't have a clue on what consists a sound scientific methodology. Or he just wants to promote boob jobs and make more cash. Most likely the later.


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    Ugh, one of 'these' studies.

    PR nailed it.
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    Default Re: Plastic surgeon finds the ideal breast shape

    Part of doing a study is finding flaws in your method. This man failed to do that. Horribly.

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    I'm guessing he had 200 calls today by women wanting 'perfect' boobies so in that sense he succeeded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phier View Post
    I'm guessing he had 200 calls today by women wanting 'perfect' boobies so in that sense he succeeded.
    Well, he failed as a scientist. He succeeded as a businessman.

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    Needs more investigation...

    I'll volunteer my services...

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    This plastic surgeon doesn't have a clue about serious methodology
    Polykleitos’ canon, a system of fixed ratios between the different parts of the body which was taken as a model for several centuries...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludicus View Post
    Polykleitos’ canon, a system of fixed ratios between the different parts of the body which was taken as a model for several centuries...
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    But in order to find the perfect ratios you don't use a faulty subjective method. This "study", even if its results were true, is completely invalid. It's a clear PR stunt, and i'm almost sure it worked.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Portuguese Rebel View Post
    But in order to find the perfect ratios you don't use a faulty subjective method.
    Absolutely.
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    Default Re: Plastic surgeon finds the ideal breast shape

    Maybe its all subjective or the eye of the beholder sorta thing. Some like em big some like em small.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MathiasOfAthens View Post
    Maybe its all subjective or the eye of the beholder sorta thing. Some like em big some like em small.
    I agree. Personally, buxom blondes aren't appealing to me in the least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ancient Aliens View Post
    I agree. Personally, buxom blondes aren't appealing to me in the least.
    Seriously man?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransom Locke View Post
    Seriously man?
    Yup. I prefer small breasted women. And I like petite women. And short-haired women. And no, I am not a closet fag. Everyone happens to have their own preferences; you can take the big breasted blondes, for all I care. Personally, I think they look like trailer park trash, and I like being with women who look elegant, though for me, brains take precedence over looks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ancient Aliens View Post
    Yup. I prefer small breasted women. And I like petite women. And short-haired women. And no, I am not a closet fag. Everyone happens to have their own preferences; you can take the big breasted blondes, for all I care. Personally, I think they look like trailer park trash, and I like being with women who look elegant, though for me, brains take precedence over looks.
    Are you saying big breasted blondes can't be intelligent? I'm good with small breasted women too and the short hair does look nice but seriously??? Trailer trash? Also I think we can all agree that red haired women are the hottest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ancient Aliens View Post
    Yup. I prefer small breasted women. And I like petite women. And short-haired women. And no, I am not a closet fag. Everyone happens to have their own preferences; you can take the big breasted blondes, for all I care. Personally, I think they look like trailer park trash, and I like being with women who look elegant, though for me, brains take precedence over looks.
    Short haired women FTW... and no, i'm not a closet fag either
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