Why should we remember 9/11 & why not Hiroshima & Nagasaki bombings conducted by the same United States?

[The Genuine Cookie Monster]

It's interesting to note here that the world keeps shouting about 9/11 and the losses over it. How could have they forgotten the Atomic bombings of Hiroshima & Nagasaki, conducted by the same United States?? By highly trained & educated military forces... Where were all your sympathies then, when their innocent people suffered a terrible loss & that their generations are still suffering & shall suffer!

The most 'civilized' & 'peaceful' people are the actual 'TERRORISTS', not Muslims! though your Western philosophy goes well with the saying, that The sin matters, not the sinner, then why is it that all the Muslims have become suspicious in your eyes. The same was the situation when the Russian army invaded Afghanistan & then the US got united with the Muslims & got their army out & when now the same 'Jihaadis' are rising against them, why US is mad at them?

[The Vengur]

the difference is that 9/11 was a terrorist attack done by a terrorist group while hiroshima and Nagasaki were legal acts of war against a warring nation, most of the population in hiroshima was employed at the military industries in the city, a man that makes guns is in no way innocent.

and since the jihadist do not respect human rights, why should we have any pity for them?

[Guy]

legal acts

Oh my!

[SLN445]

Only a legal act of war because it had never been done before, doesnt make it anymore right.
A horrific act of violence but sadly had to be done, atleast by popular opinion anyways.

9/11 is talked about alot because it wasnt a great deal of time ago, resulted in much chaos in the world and occured to the leading world power.

[Adar]

All killings should be remembered, the question is if we should regret them.

And regarding the Japanese Empire...

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[The Vengur]

Only a legal act of war because it had never been done before, doesnt make it anymore right.
A horrific act of violence but sadly had to be done, atleast by popular opinion anyways.

9/11 is talked about alot because it wasnt a great deal of time ago, resulted in much chaos in the world and occured to the leading world power.

it was either a nuclear strike, or an invasion and since the estimated causalities for the invasion were one million troops and three millions of civilian japanese the nuclear strike was less costly in lives, simpler and a fast way to get an end to the war.

[The excited one]

is it because it is not an american event so its not forgotten???

[SLN445]

it was either a nuclear strike, or an invasion and since the estimated causalities for the invasion were one million troops and three millions of civilian japanese the nuclear strike was less costly in lives, simpler and a fast way to get an end to the war.

As i said "Sadly had to be done", though it doesnt make it any less of a horrific act.

[KnightsTemplar]

Oh, why.
I would like to ask.
How's the atominc bombings in any way related to 9/11?
No. Absolutely NO.

It's very repugnant that some buggers always use tu quoque.
Hell, this can't even qualify for it.

Yes, I'm talking about all those nationalists.
Not any country, but every of you who speak just for your bloody country.

[Condottiere 40K]

I think they ran out of targets to bomb; Kyoto was vetoed as unforgivable and Tokyo, besides already firebombed with greater casualties, they needed an alive leadership to negotiate with.

[The Vengur]

I think they ran out of targets to bomb; Kyoto was vetoed as unforgivable and Tokyo, besides already firebombed with greater casualties, they needed an alive leadership to negotiate with.

they chose Hiroshima and Nagasaki because those cities were not bombed (the americans wanted to see how much damage the bombs would do) and had major war-industries (tojo factory in hiroshima, 7500 arisaka rifles a month.).

[karo]

Ummmm.... I don't know maybe because the US and Japan were at war and the those two cities were major industrial cities aiding the Japanese war effort. If the US hadn't dropped the A-bomb then the war wouldn't have ended there but would have dragged on with much more casualties on either side. Also the Soviet-Union was starting their invasion of Japan, and Japan would have turned into a second Germany with one part being communist and the other capitalist. You see there are may differences between the two cases.

[Mightypeon]

The Atomic Bombs were dropped to ensure that the Japanese capitulated ONLY to the US and not to the Russians.

[Condottiere 40K]

It was also to impress upon the Russians the fact that they had a working model.

[General Brittanicus]

It's interesting to note here that the world keeps shouting about 9/11 and the losses over it. How could have they forgotten the Atomic bombings of Hiroshima & Nagasaki, conducted by the same United States?? By a highly trained & educated military forces... Where were all your sympathies then, when their innocent people suffered a terrible loss & that their generations are still suffering & shall suffer!

What do you mean by "the world"? It's pretty much only the US who does anything significant to remember the event every year since it happened - a few other countries have minor ceremonies and whatnot, but nothing major. Also for the rest of the world 9/11 is the 9th of November and to my knowledge nothing particularly significant happened on that day.

And the bombings of Nagasaki and Hiroshima are also still remebered in Japan with a US representative attending the ceremony for the first time very recently i believe. THey certainly aren't forgotten about either - they are just 66 years in the past where 11/9 is only around 10 years ago - thus it is more prominent in our minds atm.

[The Vengur]

What do you mean by "the world"? It's pretty much only the US who does anything significant to remember the event every year since it happened - a few other countries have minor ceremonies and whatnot, but nothing major. Also for the rest of the world 9/11 is the 9th of November and to my knowledge nothing particularly significant happened on that day.

And the bombings of Nagasaki and Hiroshima are also still remebered in Japan with a US representative attending the ceremony for the first time very recently i believe. THey certainly aren't forgotten about either - they are just 66 years in the past where 11/9 is only around 10 years ago - thus it is more prominent in our minds atm.

one more thing is that 9/11 was broadcasted live across the entire globe, 3 billions knew about it a week after.

[Treize]

As if they don't do that in Japan.

[Vanoi]

Oh look this thread again.......

[Chukada1]

Why the feck don't we remember Timur the Lames atrocities in Central Asia in lieu of 9/11. I mean it was way way worse. Gosh Darn ignorant Americans.

[Prosaic Visitant]

Another thread that goes like this: "America did something bad, so you can't criticise us Mohammedans".

Good to see moral conviction is alive and well.

It's interesting to note here that the world keeps shouting about 9/11 and the losses over it. How could have they forgotten the Atomic bombings of Hiroshima & Nagasaki, conducted by the same United States?? By a highly trained & educated military forces...

A terrible bombing that brought a destructive war to a close quicker vs a random act of hatred that had no point. Hmm.

Where were all your sympathies then

I was not alive in '45.

, when their innocent people suffered a terrible loss & that their generations are still suffering & shall suffer!

Implying that I don't care about the victims = arrogance.

The most 'civilized' & 'peaceful' people are the actual 'TERRORISTS', not we Muslims! though your Western philosophy goes well with the saying, that The sin matters, not the sinner, then why is it that all the Muslims have become a victim in your eyes. The same was the situation when the Russian army invaded Afghanistan & then the US got united with the Muslims & got their army out & when now the same 'Jihaadis' are rising against them, why US is mad at them?

Oh look people, seeking to move the attention away from the some of the worst of Muslims by saying "LOOK, AMERICA DID BAD SO NOTHING MUSLIMS DID IS BAD'.

I'd have respect for your motive if you weren't trying to eclipse one bad thing with a second. Why not remember both? Or are you using the nuclear bombings as a political tool?

And please stop using words like 'your' as you have no idea who people are.

Why the feck don't we remember Timur the Lames atrocities in Central Asia in lieu of 9/11. I mean it was way way worse. Gosh Darn ignorant Americans.

IKR, and why does no one care about the invasion of Britain by the Romans?

As i said "Sadly had to be done", though it doesnt make it any less of a horrific act.

Precisery.