Second Battle of Damietta

[c00ki3]

Second Siege of Damietta

**Role Play after first battle - NO ONE KNOWS ABOUT THIS EXCEPT FOR WHO IS IN IT**


Alexius of The GRE
King Baldwin the 1st of the Crusaders
Templar Captain

So now you want to talk, was the battle not a good enough time for you?
Alexius, shut your mouth. I will accept I should of talked to you more about what we did, but we can't just argue over the past. If the Mamalukes are able to past my kingdom, you will lose your ancient empire. I am sorry for your loss of men, but I have lost quite the same or more. I am asking you, as a friend, to come to our aide to the Sinai and we will attack the Mamlukes together. I know you are here for land, but in the future I will help you with Anatolia. Trust me though, if the Holy Land is lost, your kingdom won't last very long..
You do realise that our enemies are gathering together even as we speak. We couldn't even beat the Mamluks so how do you plan on taking the entie Islamic faith? my country is about to be forced into a war of its own and that is where I am heading. I suggest you withdraw too before you are overwhelmed. If we can gain a peace traty we can rebuild our strength and come back with more allies and a much stronger force.This war may be over but there will be more in the future, do not waste men on a lost cause.
So you are going to run since you can't gain your land? That is fine..But we do not want to see you back when we are winning this war just for your petty greed. If you leave now, you leave this war forever.This is not a lost cause. I still have plenty of men, and we are willing to die for our faith. We defend the Sinai and get ready for another attack!


Baldwin goes out to his chamber to speak to his commanders.
The Mamelukes are preparing to counter attack us as we speak. We must act now, generals..
Our men are in bad shape sir, though..Shouldn't we try to defend the Sinai if we must fight? A peace treaty would help us until we get more men to fight.
Do you think the Mamelukes would allow a peace treaty right after we attack them? Of course not! Unless we give them land or something of value. The Greeks are running like cowards, but that just means more land and glory for us. We still have a strong crusading army, captain. I say we send a scouting force to see what the Sarcens are doing. If there is no sight of them then we move at night to Damietta and shoot it into pieces.
I will move the men now! God wills it!

This is a surprise attack since the Sarcens think we are staying in the Sinai. Our men have high spirits once again because reinforcements have arrived and most of the men are still alive. Plans and armies will only be given to the moderator of this battle.

[kingsid]

OOC: You can not retrain knights to elite standard all at once just coz you have $$$ and then instantly attack again afterwards, you will have to flee and re-cop your losses. This is why I feel this system dose not work.

[c00ki3]

OOC - the losses were done before the system was chosen. If I have to do it then I want a mod to redo the battle w/ Aggy's system.

[kingsid]

OOC: Oh wow! Dude, its a game. You lost, deal with it, being blunt. You were all against aggys way and now that you've lost you change your mind? I used logic and dice roll, unfortunatly you got some nasty rolls which hurt your army. Logically if aggy says his retraining way is logical, how would you be able to retrain all your knights from seperate and distant areas in one place just coz you got $$$. Very unlogical. Man this is why WR should be made a proper game with proper and logical bondrys

[c00ki3]

OOC - I am not being a hypocrite. I would use this new system if it was instated before this battle. If I lose again, I will do so. WR is urological from the start-we didn't have proper guidelines in place. In past games you could retrain right away if you had the money. Yes, I still think Aggy's system is crap, but since you are using a new system then I want all guidelines written down and used. Not just one then a week later reinstate a new one. I could of asked for a reroll, but I didn't.

I am the one always saying it is a game by the way, and I know it is. If my nation got destroyed I wouldn't care; I would just move and let it go..? I just don't like when new ideas are placed and saying I did it wrong b/c frankly its not my fault my battle was done when two systems were being made. By the way, don't come baring in saying that, go look at your unlogical population. I am fine with the previous battle, and I will use the waiting system for next battle.
/rant

[kingsid]

OOC: I agree with you on this. Messed up at start causing arguements later, it wan't properly thought through.

Good on you, wish more people could be like that *Cough* Aggy *Cough*. I'm just saying the retraining thing has to be sorted out is all, nothing more, because you wouldn't be able to get all thoughs elites from your land and trin them to standards of diffrent areas. It dosn't make sence.

ALSO: Could you do battle for Skadra please since your probs best one I know to do it.

[c00ki3]

OOC - I promise you I'll do the waiting thing this battle. Just I don't like how we are implimating all these new systems. And yes, I am doing it now, I just need Serbias + Illyrias + GRE armies + plans

[Pinkie Pie]

OOC: Moral will actualy be a bit low due to the loss of one of your main contributers (me).

[c00ki3]

OOC: Moral will actualy be a bit low due to the loss of one of your main contributers (me).

Its not going to stay extremely low just for one battle. It was still quite close. We have reinforcements and such

[kingsid]

There morale is already really low there choice to stay.

[Buzzbot]

General Irwin Arenethal and the Away Army of Austrian arrive in the Sinia.
At the docks the men dismbark from their paid transport from Verona and start to set up a field camp. The men look a little of balanced and some ill from their long voyage.
General Arenethal requests to speak to a Crusader commander over tactics and logistics.

The AAA conisists of:
General Irwin Arenethal
500 Heavy Artillery
2,000 Veteran Archers
2,000 Veteran Pikemen
2,0000 Veteran Spearmen
2,000 Elite Heavy Calvary
2,000 Elite Heavy Infantry
2,000 Elite Medium Infantry
2,000 Archer/Infantry
2,000 Heavy Infantry
2,000 Light Infanry

[c00ki3]

King Baldwin smiles when he sees the Austrians arrive. He brings him into the tent.

Lets speak privately.

PM ME

[AussieGuy]

OOC: If you really want to attack me with already low morale and loss of men, good luck.

Army:
9,400 Mamluk Nobles
18,800 Mamluk Slaves
15,800 Professional Light Calvary
18,950 Profesional Archers
23,750 Veteran Medium Infantry
22,300 Veteran Spearmen

Reinforcements:
85,000 Saracen Militia (Watch/Light Infantry)
174,000 Saracen Spearmen (Watch/Spearmen)

[c00ki3]

OOC: If you really want to attack me with already low morale and loss of men, good luck.

Army:
9,400 Mamluk Nobles
18,800 Mamluk Slaves
15,800 Professional Light Calvary
18,950 Profesional Archers
23,750 Veteran Medium Infantry
22,300 Veteran Spearmen

Reinforcements:
85,000 Saracen Militia (Watch/Light Infantry)
174,000 Saracen Spearmen (Watch/Spearmen)

vs. me + austria's army +other crusaders?

And Morocco..this is a surprise attack -.- I know I sent a previous attack, but no way would you arrive in time..

+ My men aren't that low on morale -.-. They still have plenty of men and haven't lost much.

[AussieGuy]

vs. me + austria's army +other crusaders?

And Morocco..this is a surprise attack -.- I know I sent a previous attack, but no way would you arrive in time..

+ My men aren't that low on morale -.-. They still have plenty of men and haven't lost much.

Why can't Morocco send men?

And your army is low on morale, they just lost the first battle of their campaign and lost men.

Also, are we doing the free form RP to do this battle?

[rathertallhat]

The Moroccan second army arrives to help defeat the infidel invaders

[kingsid]

[BUZZBOT BANNED = PREVIOUS MOVES DONE WORTHLESS]

[rathertallhat]

Does that affect the Moroccans or just the crusader side

[Agamemnon]

Both sides.

Also, you get another 100,000 spearmen.

[rathertallhat]

Wait so does that meant the Moroccans arent here or what I'm confused