Gazprom?

[Carach]

just been watching channel 4 news (i usually do not pay attention to the news...i dislike its biasness most of the time..)

but ..

this gazprom issue still seems to be going on, today in a statement directed at mostly the brits (but also at europe in general), they threaten 'let us take over your companies or we will sell to china instead'

(not quite as extensive as that..but its along those lines, like 'all your base are belong to us' lol)

some links: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4925682.stm

[John Wayne]

It seems to me that this is just capitalism at work: Let me work here, or I go there. That kinda thing.

[Cadmium77]

It seems to me that this is just capitalism at work: Let me work here, or I go there. That kinda thing.

Capitalism is war by other means. This is the kind of stuff nations shed blood over. But some will always argue that it's better to drop the trousers and bend over rather than fight.

[RusskiSoldat]

Isn't Gazprom controlled by the Russian government?
IIRC the government has the majority of the board of directors and something like 35% of the stock in Gazprom.
Real triumph of capitalism there.

[Carach]

Isn't Gazprom controlled by the Russian government?

exactly.

i should look for that 'invading russia' thread.

i had the perfect plans to stop russia being so bigheaded..

[Freddie]

Isn't Gazprom controlled by the Russian government?
IIRC the government has the majority of the board of directors and something like 35% of the stock in Gazprom.
Real triumph of capitalism there.

I would have thought Gazprom is like a lot of Russian utility companies (Utilities meaning they supply, Electricity, Gas, Water Etc) where by the company along with other nationalised companies has been privatised by the Russian government.

At some point Putin will renationalise Gazprom (paying well over the odds for it like he did with Roman Abramavich's oil company) and Alxei will have to lump it otherwise the next time you see his face will be on a missing poster.

[RusskiSoldat]

Haha
Oh man
Europe invading Russia
That idea gave me the biggest laugh I've had this week

[Carach]

Haha
Oh man
Europe invading Russia
That idea gave me the biggest laugh I've had this week

go on then mr russki, why is it so stupid?

" we have a gazillion badly maintained very elderly museum tanks that we can just zerg you with!!11"

?

[therussian]

go on then mr russki, why is it so stupid?

" we have a gazillion badly maintained very elderly museum tanks that we can just zerg you with!!11"

?

And several thousand nuclear missles

[GeneralLee]

Have you ever seen an angry russian? It's a bad idea trust me.

[Carach]

id have to refer people to that thread before people laugh at me tbh, its not what russki is probably thinking of.

[Erik]

So basically:
-Europe wants to become less dependant on Russia in case they suddently stop delivering to them.
And
-Russia threatens to suddently stop delivering because Europe tries to get less dependant on them.

This only proves Europe was right not to trust Russia for their main gas supply.
Europe simply can't take a gamble here because no gas means no industry and this means total economic collapse.
So it's better to pay 3 times as much for a reliable source then to put your entire economy in the hands of some "crazy Ivans".

Btw: if Russia wants to supply to China and America they are going to need some seriously long pipelines (as in: half way around the globe).
Natural gas can't be transported in ships like oil can.
Any ship carrying natural gas half way around the globe is going to consume a huge portion of it's cargo just for it's own propulsion.
This wil make Russian gas very expensive for the end user.

[MaximiIian]

Ya'll better start looking for alternative fuels, then...
Hydrogen. There's lots of it.

Seriously, if it's so big a deal, why don't the governments just assassinate the gazprom's leaders?

[Erik]

Ya'll better start looking for alternative fuels, then...
Hydrogen. There's lots of it.

Yeah, all you need is 100GW of electricity to produce enough Hydrogen to produce 50GW of electricity. (or whatever you need).

Seriously, if it's so big a deal, why don't the governments just assassinate the gazprom's leaders?

Because it's a real-world situation, and not some Hollywood fantasy?

[MaximiIian]

Yeah, all you need is 100GW of electricity to produce enough Hydrogen to produce 50GW of electricity. (or whatever you need).

What about solar power, or a big ****kin' electric battery?

Because it's a real-world situation, and not some Hollywood fantasy?

Assassinating someone is far from the fantastic.

[Carach]

Because it's a real-world situation, and not some Hollywood fantasy?

thats the best post ive seen you made ever!

made me chuckle.

brilliant.

And several thousand nuclear missles

europe has nukes too.

the thing being, neither will use them.

[Tom Paine]

europe has nukes too.

the thing being, neither will use them.

Quoted for accuracy... ever heard of MAD, therussian? Yeah, its still extant in some ways...

[RusskiSoldat]

So basically:
-Europe wants to become less dependant on Russia in case they suddently stop delivering to them.
And
-Russia threatens to suddently stop delivering because Europe tries to get less dependant on them.

This only proves Europe was right not to trust Russia for their main gas supply.

Who are they supposed to trust?
Our reserves are the biggest in the world.

[RusskiSoldat]

Assassinating several Russian government officials just might create a bit of ill will.

[Kanaric]

Assassinating several Russian government officials just might create a bit of ill will.

One thing is for sure though, it would be one HELL of a good time.