How to become orthodox

**Doge Domenico** · October 23, 2011, 11:21 AM

Orthodox factions cannot be crusaded against.

**ccgr1121** · October 23, 2011, 12:10 PM

They can't at the start, but try declaring war on the Pope and see what happens

**Doge Domenico** · October 23, 2011, 02:30 PM

You seriously cant get a crusade called on a orthodox faction. Trust me, i play venice 90 percent of the time. You dont think ive tried everything(even gifting the pope Constantinople so the byzzies would declare war) to get a crusade called on those annoying, POS Greeks? Its never happened.

**In3x** · October 23, 2011, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by Doge Domenico

You seriously cant get a crusade called on a orthodox faction. Trust me, i play venice 90 percent of the time. You dont think ive tried everything(even gifting the pope Constantinople so the byzzies would declare war) to get a crusade called on those annoying, POS Greeks? Its never happened.

I've seen Byzantium, Nicosia and Smyrna all able to have a crusade called against them.

**Shasqua** · October 23, 2011, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by In3x

I've seen Byzantium, Nicosia and Smyrna all able to have a crusade called against them.

While under Byzantine control? Do you have screenshots?

**In3x** · October 23, 2011, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by Shasqua

While under Byzantine control? Do you have screenshots?

Yes and sadly no.

**Avatar** · October 23, 2011, 04:28 PM

Orthodox cities can most certainly be crusaded against, its just they are lowest on the Popes priority list after Muslim and excommunicatees. Once you have a large catholic faction on the Popes naughty list, there tends to be no space on the list of crusade targets from the Byzantines.

**Doge Domenico** · October 23, 2011, 08:42 PM

Pics or it didn't happen.

**JustinianAlpha** · October 24, 2011, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by Doge Domenico

Pics or it didn't happen.

I'm about 99% sure I've seen Orthodox settlements as possible targets when asking the pope to call a crusade. I'll keep an eye out for it and post a screenshot once I run into it again.

**Bringer Of Storms** · October 23, 2011, 09:47 PM

http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showth...eval-Total-War

If you don't feel like reading then here you go.

"Orthodox factions don't deal with the Pope and they can be common targets for crusades but as long as you keep your borders protected this shouldn't be a problem."

No one is safe from the wrath of the Pope.

**florin87** · October 24, 2011, 04:46 AM

Originally Posted by Bringer Of Storms

http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showth...eval-Total-War

If you don't feel like reading then here you go.

"Orthodox factions don't deal with the Pope and they can be common targets for crusades but as long as you keep your borders protected this shouldn't be a problem."

No one is safe from the wrath of the Pope.

excuse me but that's for medieval I.

**Bringer Of Storms** · October 24, 2011, 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by florin87

excuse me but that's for medieval I.

My mistake, but I doubt they changed it in Medieval II.

**nopasties** · October 24, 2011, 12:20 AM

You can change the religion of France. It requires modding. I think you can cause a scripted event similar to Lithuania becoming Catholic but I forget if it is possible to change faction religions in that direction once a game begins.

If you do tinker with the files make sure to make original copies. If you have no clue how to mod this it will take you a lot of hours to learn.

**PrestigeX** · October 24, 2011, 10:12 AM

He is annoying, but if you're wise you'll make him a good friend -- ie. Get your Man in as Bishop of Rome.

I think the pain of the pope is well balanced by the strength of Crusade -- free army upkeep - you can place upto 90 percent of your armed forces on crusade HUGE income relief on those turns -- super cheap mercs -- movement points -- and one other thing -- OThER crusaders who also arrive and weaken / intimidate the enemy.

If you build churches all over your lands without being asked, recruit priests - so every settlement has one -- you'll advance really fast and 30-40 turns later you maybe have the largest portion of Cardinals.

Acting well also helps -- release prisoners (however tempting to execute =P) - occupy etc.. all the stuff that makes a 'normal' faction like you, same for the pope -- IF you have decent relations with most factions and the pope, instead of a .. "STop attacking or else I excommunicate" you get the .. "Stop attacking or your papal favor will be lowered".