Upgraded Bodyguards [SS6.4]

[Serbian Hussar]

SH

SH

As we all know, Early Bodyguards' armour upgrade goes only to plate armour.
That tends to be irritating when campaign reaches years in which more advanced armour is available and Bodyguards start to look poorer than some common infantry.
So here is a small fix/modification that lets you upgrade your Bodyguards to full plate and gothic armour.
Just copy the .txt file in M2TW\mods\SS6.3\data and overwrite. It's save game compatable.
Enjoy

[Ichon]

Thanks- wish there was a better way to do it but it does make sense for late campaign.

[Stario]

You seemed to have added some late era "armour_ug_levels" + "armour_ug_models" to the early bodyguards and increased the "stat_pri_armour" value of early BG's ?

[Serbian Hussar]

Right. Thats's the only way you can have further upgraded armour for your family members. Now they start at coat of plates instead at heavy mail, and go to plate, full plate and gothic plate.

[Fatecheater]

Something is not quite right...

type NE Bodyguard
dictionary NE_Bodyguard ; General's Bodyguard, ep
category cavalry
class heavy
voice_type General
banner faction main_cavalry
banner holy crusade_cavalry
soldier NE_Bodyguard, 12, 0, 1
officer northern_captain_early_flag
mount barded horse
mount_effect elephant -4, camel -4
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, very_hardy, can_withdraw , general_unit
move_speed_mod 0.95
formation 1.5, 4.4, 2, 6, 2, square
stat_health 1, 3
stat_pri 5, 14, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, spear, 60, 1
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 10, 5, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, sword, 15, 1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 9, 9, 3, metal ;
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 7
stat_ground -1, -2, -3, 0
stat_mental 18, disciplined, trained
stat_charge_dist 45
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 555, 0, 60, 50, 555, 1, 100
armour_ug_levels 15, 16, 21, 24
armour_ug_models NE_Bodyguard, NE_Bodyguard_ug1, NE_Late_Bodyguard, NE_Late_Bodyguard_ug1
ownership england, scotland, france, hre, denmark, poland, hungary, slave , norway, jerusalem
era 0 england, scotland, france, hre, denmark, poland, hungary, slave , norway, jerusalem
era 1 england, scotland, france, hre, denmark, poland, hungary, slave , norway, jerusalem
recruit_priority_offset 40

type NE Late Bodyguard
dictionary NE_Late_Bodyguard ; General's Bodyguard, lp
category cavalry
class heavy
voice_type General
banner faction main_cavalry
banner holy crusade_cavalry
soldier NE_Late_Bodyguard, 12, 0, 1
officer northern_captain_early_flag
mount armoured horse
mount_effect elephant -4, camel -4
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, very_hardy, can_withdraw, general_unit, general_unit_upgrade
move_speed_mod 0.9
formation 1.5, 4.4, 2, 6, 2, square
stat_health 1, 3
stat_pri 5, 15, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, spear, 60, 1
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 10, 4, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, sword, 15, 1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 21, 9, 2, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 9
stat_ground -2, -3, -4, -1
stat_mental 18, disciplined, trained
stat_charge_dist 45
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 7, 830, 0, 60, 50, 680, 1, 105
armour_ug_levels 21, 23, 24, 26
armour_ug_models NE_Late_Bodyguard, NE_Late_Bodyguard, NE_Late_Bodyguard_ug1, NE_Late_Bodyguard_ug1
ownership england, scotland, france, hre, denmark, poland, hungary, jerusalem, norway
era 2 england, scotland, france, hre, denmark, poland, hungary, jerusalem, norway
recruit_priority_offset 55

The stat_pri_armour is the same as vanilla SS 6.4. You change the body model after upgrading, but the stat bonus only goes up to +4 at max. So, they look "gothic" but their armour stat only counts as 13, whereas a recruited general's bodyguard has his armour stat up to 21 (no upgrade). In battle, your family members will still be weaklings from the 12th centuries, slaughtered in less than a minute if confronted by a recruited general's bodyguard. Am I mistaken?

[Serbian Hussar]

Late bodyguards have armoured horses and thus +5 or +7 to their armour. I can't put early bodyguards on armoured horses in 11th century as it would be stupid. I gave them +1 armour as they now start at coat of plates instead heavy mail. Or do you wish havy mail to have 17 points? And this is mainly estethic and I personaly think it's better to have bodyguards that look late but not as quite as strong, then to have bodyguards thet look couple of centuries out of date.

[Fatecheater]

SH, I think the only way, as of now, to make them strong, asthetics and historicallly acceptable is by manually replacing the export_descr_unit.txt file. Perhaps, it is better if two EDUs are introduced, one for 1100-1450 and one for 1450-?

[makute]

Is this mod fully compatible with MSC 6.0 + BGR IV_E? I compared both export_desc_unit.txt with Notepad++ and there are other differences apart from the bodyguard ones (mainly upkeep values, me thinks).

[Serbian Hussar]

Is this mod fully compatible with MSC 6.0 + BGR IV_E? I compared both export_desc_unit.txt with Notepad++ and there are other differences apart from the bodyguard ones (mainly upkeep values, me thinks).

Well then you can change the bodyguards yourself. Just see what things I've changed and copy it to EDU you use.

SH, I think the only way, as of now, to make them strong, asthetics and historicallly acceptable is by manually replacing the export_descr_unit.txt file. Perhaps, it is better if two EDUs are introduced, one for 1100-1450 and one for 1450-?

Then you have to make a new unit. It's a bit more work. And anyway, I think that family members are hardcoded to only one unit. It is why family members dont have late bodyguard models like trained generals from citadels.

[Fatecheater]

Well, it's not necessary that we make a new unit. Let's put it this way: we use 2 different EDU files (one marked as EARLY and one marked as LATE). In the EARLY, we copy-paste the early bodyguard units into the late bodyguard units, replacing those. In the LATE, we do it the other way around. These 2 will be kept as backup files. When ingame, we will use either one according to the timeline (whether it's 1100-1450 or later).

[Ichon]

How many armor upgrades are available? Couldn't we just reserve the final 2 for BG only? Since each upgrade actually is rather massive compared to total armor especially in the earlier eras.

[Denizou]

Is it compatible with Meneth Submods compilation? Maybe included?

[Serbian Hussar]

If Meneth didn't change the EDU file it's compatable.

I don't know any other solution to this than the one I did. Two EDUs is complicated.

[Whiligelm]

Hello,

first of all thanks for the mod, I was looking for something that changed the old fashioned surcoat for the captain in my late era campaign...
A few questions:

1. Will this work on my "in-progress" campaign, or do I have to start a new one?

2. Is there any way, or any other mod, that can bring me back the vanilla generals (note generals and family members not captains) instead of Stainless Steel's generals? I might be asking too much, but I really dislike the fact that my generals/family members are still wearing old fashioned topfhelms or great helms when they are wearing a plate harness.

3. What kind of sub-mod are you using in the screenshot on the first post?

Thanks in advance for answers

[Serbian Hussar]

Hi man.

1. You do not have to start a new campaign.
2. This is only for Stainless Steal mod and it will not work with any other because these are only text changes. Those models are in SS6.4.
3. Just regular Stainless Steal 6.4

[Whiligelm]

Thanks for answer but I didn't understand this

2. This is only for Stainless Steal mod and it will not work with any other because these are only text changes. Those models are in SS6.4.

Am I able or not to change the SS' General armour with the vanilla one?

[Baraban]

This is an excellent idea!! I'd give you rep if I could.

[Serbian Hussar]

You can make a backup of export_descr_unit.txt and copy it back if you want default bodyguards back, if that is what you are asking me.

This is an excellent idea!! I'd give you rep if I could.

Thanks

[Polycarpe]

@Serbian Hussar, I believe you may have a certain interest in this feature regarding upgraded bodyguards. Hope you'll like it.

[Serbian Hussar]

That is far more sophisticated way of upgreading bodyguards than mine Thanks for the link, I'll try to do it that way.