Should the Nobel Prize Comitee and Obama be sued ?

[Menelik_I]

Question : Should the Nobel Prize Comitee and Obama be sued ?

Rational : Obama was awarded the Nobel Prize a mere 2 weeks after being President, this seemed to be a preemptive strike() by the Norwegian, convinced that Obama will bring in a New Era of Peace on the globe, after George W Bush (Curse be on him and the horse He ride.).

However Obama have been anything but peaceful:

1- Assassination of Bin Laden.
2- Surge in Afghanistan.
3- War in Libya.
4- USA Backed assassination of Muamar Gaddafi, a man He shock hands with just 2 years ago.
5- Assasination of Al Allawaki.
6- Drone War in Pakistan.
7- Drone War in Yemen.
8- Troops being sent to Uganda.

On these grounds, I contend that the Norwegian People and Taxpayers deserve a Prize refund and return of the medal, on the ground that either :
1) The Nobel Prize Comity made proof of poor judgement, should sued and possibly fired to grossly failing in their obligations.
2) Obama wishfully misled the Comity and therefore liable to be sued for fraud and premeditated scam.
3) As a third ground, the Nobel Peace Prize is a rating, and by awarding the prize to such a warlike person, the Comity grossly misinformed millions of people around the globe.


The People and Tax payers of Norway have a right for such.

Please Legal Experts of TWC , both Harvard and WikiGraduates, can such lawsuit be mounted and on what legal precedent.



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[I WUB PUGS]

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[molonthegreat]

Well the peace prize is a joke and seeing who the Norwegians hand it out two justify a lot of our jokes about them, it's also insulting since it taints the reputation of the other Nobel prizes which my country gives out. So if anything we should take the peace prize away from the Norwegians.

[Ancient Aliens]

The most ironic thing about the Nobel Peace Prize is that Alfred Nobel was the inventor of dynamite. The Nobel Prize and its recipients are complete jokes.

[molonthegreat]

The most ironic thing about the Nobel Peace Prize is that Alfred Nobel was the inventor of dynamite. The Nobel Prize and its recipients are complete jokes.

Dude, the ones not being the peace prize aren't jokes, furthermore Nobel donated all his money to the Nobel foundation and wanted these prizes since he wanted to make amends for all the carnage his invention had causes.

[Claudius Gothicus]

On the contrary, Obama taking an aggressive stance against World terrorists like Osama or actively supporting the violent overthrowing of despots in Egypt and Libya is making the world a more peaceful place to live in, even if it's done through superior Firepower.

[Menelik_I]

On the contrary, Obama has taking an aggressive stance against World terrorists like Osama or actively supporting the violent overthrowing of despots in Egypt and Libya is making the world a more peaceful place to live in

How many dead bodies is an acceptable level ? Both for the intervention and post intervention, in order to justify this level of violence as acceptable of the Prize ?

Please develop your quantitative analyze.

even if it's done through superior Firepower.

[Claudius Gothicus]

How many dead bodies is an acceptable level ? Both for the intervention and post intervention, in order to justify this level of violence as acceptable of the Prize ?

I'm absolutely in agreement with the Nobel's Committee. What Obama did was taking the prize seriously, as some sort of ''responsibility''.

''What's the only way of keeping the bad guys from acting their bad ways?'' Keep them in fear of omnipresent and unrestricted retribution. That's how Osama was finally caught, and that other Allawaki guy was caught too.

Obama's next move, not supporting the old USA puppets in North Africa, was a peace oriented move too... what's more peace leaning that allowing for the overthrowing of Long Dictatorships and also giving a helping hand to take down another crazy wacko that never liked the USA in the first place and was directly linked to a past of supporting, financing and condoning terrorist actions against western civilians.

Also, he refocused NATO's troops on Afghanistan to finally end the war in there and has been, during the last part of this year, systematically ''not giving a crap'' about Pakistan's concerns... which is a good thing since a large part of Pakistan's Military Bureaucracy covers up support for the Talis.

Please develop your quantitative analyze.

Ever since Obama took office the western world has experienced zero terrorist attacks, in fact the USA managed to defuse quite a lot. On the other hand terrorist organizations and the Talibans have been suffering a rather large number of losses due to Drone Attacks and Spec-Ops.

Exactly.

[Boustrophedon]

How many dead bodies is an acceptable level ? Both for the intervention and post intervention, in order to justify this level of violence as acceptable of the Prize ?

You seem to be forgetting that the Libyan war is a civil war, started by insurgent Libyans... If anybody is responsible for any body count I'd say it's them

[YukonTrooper]

To add to the list:

- drone war in Somalia
- continued extraordinary rendition and torture
- black-site opened on Mogadishu
- gunrunning in Mexico (around 200 deaths so far)

On the contrary, Obama taking an aggressive stance against World terrorists like Osama or actively supporting the violent overthrowing of despots in Egypt and Libya is making the world a more peaceful place to live in, even if it's done through superior Firepower.

You forgot the part where Mubarak was an American-backed despot who's security forces were even using American made tear gas on protestors. You also forgot the part where American calls for Mubarak to step down came only at the last minute when it was clear that the protestors weren't going away.

As far as Libya goes, the country has now been destabilized and the future is uncertain. Many of the "rebels" are al-Qaeda and other hardline Islamic Jihadis, most notably the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group, who have previously fought and killed NATO troops in Iraq. In the beginning of the conflict, Algeria's president notified NATO that al-Qaeda had been spotted looting arms from Benghazi weapon depots, including shoulder-fired surface-to-air missile launchers, then driving this arms across borders of neighboring countries. Last month, it was noted that up to 20,000 of these SA-7's and SA-16's (Russian made equivalents of the Stinger) had gone missing from Tripoli weapon depots. Mustard gas has also gone missing. Gaddafi had been playing ball with the West and was actively fighting terrorism.

I just don't see where peaceful is factored into any of this.

[Le Songeur]

The most ironic thing about the Nobel Peace Prize is that Alfred Nobel was the inventor of dynamite. The Nobel Prize and its recipients are complete jokes.

Excuse my ignorance, but I don't see the irony.
I know dynamite was used sometimes to blow up railroads or as homemade grenades, but it's not like he's the inventor of napalm or mustard gas. Other than a few instances, wasn't dynamite only used for construction, not a weapon?


@OP
I don't think anyone should be sued for it, and it isn't Obama's fault that he got a Nobel Peace Prize for nothing. He made false promises just like every presidential candidate. I just think it should reveal to everyone what a joke the prize is and how it is nothing more than a political statement.

[Phier]

@OP
I don't think anyone should be sued for it, and it isn't Obama's fault that he got a Nobel Peace Prize for nothing. He made false promises just like every presidential candidate. I just think it should reveal to everyone what a joke the prize is and how it is nothing more than a political statement.

Actually the smart and classy thing to have done would have been to decline the prize.

[NotYetRegistered]

Actually the smart and classy thing to have done would have been to decline the prize.

Because that would've given a very good impression..

[Condottiere 40K]

Obama's Peace Prize, like most of those awarded, are usually a political message concerning some current concern.

This one was that they didn't like the direction of Bush's foreign policy and believed they needed to encourage and reinforce the one of the new administration.

[Ancient Aliens]

Excuse my ignorance, but I don't see the irony.
I know dynamite was used sometimes to blow up railroads or as homemade grenades, but it's not like he's the inventor of napalm or mustard gas. Other than a few instances, wasn't dynamite only used for construction, not a weapon?

Dynamite was used extensively throughout World War I, and it was used in many conflicts up until that point. See military dynamite. The compounds used commercially for the first time in dynamite (particularly various forms of nitroglycerin), are also used in explosives to date. Military engineers still use the basic form of dynamite invented by Alfred Nobel. Nobel also invented ballistite using the nitroglycerin. Ballistite is a military propellant.

Nobel was no idiot, but he was most certainly a hypocrite.

[I WUB PUGS]

You forgot to put BOMB THEM underneath the image, Menelik.

[Sphere]

The People and Tax payers of Norway have a right for such.

The Nobel Foundation is 100% privately funded consisting mostly of the massive fortune of Alfred Nobel, hence the name. The amount of the awards is based on how well the multi-million dollar fund is doing each year in its investments. The tax payers of Norway are no more effected than the tax payers of Thailand.

I have seen less ignorant arguments made by the cast of Jersey Shore. I am talking Snooki levels here, not Vinny.

[Menelik_I]

The Nobel Foundation is 100% privately funded consisting mostly of the massive fortune of Alfred Nobel, hence the fricken name. The amount of the awards is based on how well the fund is doing each year.

I have seen less ignorant arguments made by the cast of Jersey Shore.

Still the miss-judgement of the Comity misled millions of people around the world.

@Concillius: _I_

[Eofor]

It's a Menelik thread, what did you expect?

[♔Jean-Luc Picard♔]

Well if "Peace through fire superiority" is a legitimate way to peace, they may have picked the right guy by the listed qualms in the OP.