The mystery of dissapearing troop(s)

[Mewmewbewbew11]

I just noticed this and not sure if it's a bug or work as intended but AI nations army that was in foreign land just... dissapeared after a truce is called, this keeps happening to my Allies army, I reached a peace agreement and their army still on the other nation's land and poof it just dissapeared after that (the ledger confirms it that their army just got disbanded leaving whatever left in their homeland)... It's unsettling...

[SLN445]

I presume the AI disbanded them if they couldn't bring them back to thier territory, or if they were extra troops they built during the war that were over thier Unit limit.

[nhytgbvfeco2]

or perhaps that army was composed of mercs which they no longer needed

[Akar]

The AI doesn't delete units, one of it's main failing points. The AI will also go quit a bit over it's forcelimits due to mercs sometimes. What was your checksum when this happened? If you don't have the normal checksum quite messed up things can happen to your game.

[MagyarCroat]

The AI doesn't delete units, one of it's main failing points. The AI will also go quit a bit over it's forcelimits due to mercs sometimes. What was your checksum when this happened? If you don't have the normal checksum quite messed up things can happen to your game.

If troops are trapped (because the idiot AI won't ever ask for military access and no ally/vassal territory is next to them) they will disband them. However, if there is ally/vassal territory they will never disband them, which I actually like, since Bohemia ends up parking half their army in Burgundy for the entire game.

[Akar]

If troops are trapped (because the idiot AI won't ever ask for military access and no ally/vassal territory is next to them) they will disband them. However, if there is ally/vassal territory they will never disband them, which I actually like, since Bohemia ends up parking half their army in Burgundy for the entire game.

Really? I've seen Bohemia leave 100k in Novgorod for 50 years after a war until Bohemia again warred Novgorod. What frustrating is that the AI wont delete their mercs, which causes them to mint. Which causes massive inflation for them. If only they would delete their mercs many many of the AI problems would go away.

[MagyarCroat]

Really? I've seen Bohemia leave 100k in Novgorod for 50 years after a war until Bohemia again warred Novgorod. What frustrating is that the AI wont delete their mercs, which causes them to mint. Which causes massive inflation for them. If only they would delete their mercs many many of the AI problems would go away.

It may make different decisions when it's really big. Perhaps it was just because it had SO MANY troops trapped in Novgorod that it would feel defenseless if it disbanded them all. But I've definitely seen middling powers disband troops that get stuck.

And, yes, the never-get-rid-of-mercenaries is a big problem. The AI is absolutely horrible at managing finances, probably because spending and force management involves risk calculations that computers just can't do. One of my favorite things is how the giant empires will still keep half of their soldiers on cored interior provinces. When I form the HRE there isn't a single soldier between Antwerpen and Danzig. It just doesn't understand that there is such a thing as a zero-threat threshold.

I've seen my vassals have troops trapped inside other vassals of mine. Quite annoying when Deva Bengal got 20k troops trapped inside Serbia. Guess who got to go hunting for rebels in Bengal? Me.

It's already absurd enough that Bengal was fighting Serbia.

[Ishoss]

I've seen my vassals have troops trapped inside other vassals of mine. Quite annoying when Deva Bengal got 20k troops trapped inside Serbia. Guess who got to go hunting for rebels in Bengal? Me.

[SLN445]

Was watching Ottomans disband troops then rebuild then in peace time while i had there capitol seperated from Anatolia.

[nhytgbvfeco2]

i have also seen the ai disbanding troops

[Mewmewbewbew11]

Akar: What is checksum? I'm new to this game and have no idea what that is sorry , I googled and all I found out was that it's the version and code on bottom left corner, which is EU3 v5.1 (BJLT) but I haven't a single clue what that means xD

The reason I asked this was I saw my ally Brunei lost their troops at least 3 times, the one time that detail I remember was that after I call a truce against Annam (they're a coastal nation), brunei had 7k of their troops there, with 4k on their homeland, Brunei usually had 9 or 10 troops active at one time so I'm guessing they had a merc or two for the war. The next day after the truce the 7k that was on Annam land just dissapeared which is weird since Brunei definitely had 4 cogs, it would take them 2 times back and forth to bring the troops back but other than that there's no reason for them to simply disband the 7k troops. (Ledger confirms it that they have only 4k troops which was at their homeland). The other two times it happened I can't recall the specifics. I always assume that the A.I. had problem with bringing troops back from overseas xD. The last time I saw A.I. troop disappear is before I made this thread, my vassal Arakan usually only have 1k standing army, but at this war before I end it they had 3k, and the 2k army that was in the enemy province next to them just disappeared when I called a truce, but I think that was their merc armies and if A.I. do disband their merc armies then that made sense I guess.

[nhytgbvfeco2]

BJLT? are you using the official 5.1 or the beta ones?

[Mewmewbewbew11]

Should be official one, I used the link from the launcher

[nhytgbvfeco2]

oh, all is fine then.

[Mewmewbewbew11]

Now I'm the one getting doubt xD. I'm going to download the patch from paradox forum just to be sure... Does patching have a chance of messing up my current game if it turn out what I have now is 5.1 beta and need to be patched?

[Akar]

BJLT is the right checksum for non-beta.

[Mewmewbewbew11]

Alrighty, ty Akar